From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12911: 24.3.50; let users decide where (& perhaps whether)`emacs_backtrace.txt' filesare written Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 10:42:01 -0800 Message-ID: References: <83wqxk3d1z.fsf@gnu.org> <83y5hyxnb1.fsf@gnu.org> <83wqxhy4ha.fsf@gnu.org> <83fw45xxzk.fsf@gnu.org> <83ehjpxwqd.fsf@gnu.org> <838v9xxss8.fsf@gnu.org> <83zk2dvsba.fsf@gnu.org> <50AB0EDE.40109@dancol.org> <83r4now6jk.fsf@gnu.org> <50ABBFA4.6080402@dancol.org> <83haokw3ss.fsf@gnu.org> <5CBDAE291F7447E8834BD7E61FF36B8A@us.oracle.com> <836250vyfo.fsf@gnu.org> <83vcczvcqj.fsf@gnu.org> <50AC5276.60406@dancol.org> <58D82C28C53E4499B15C57A4FE2687F1@us.oracle.com> <71125AE486F54427AD17522CB6B03280@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1353523371 22658 80.91.229.3 (21 Nov 2012 18:42:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:42:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 12911@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Juanma Barranquero'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 21 19:43:01 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TbFGG-0001a8-Jq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:42:03 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt106.oracle.com (abhmt106.oracle.com [141.146.116.58]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id qALIg2f7008427; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 12:42:02 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.8) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 10:42:02 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac3IFA3MlJQsgXKuQdaKzMlXyMGdAwAAkwcA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 In-Reply-To: X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:67283 Archived-At: > I find an irrelevant distraction that you're discussing "[...] the > etiquette that applications generally respect on Windows, in order to > respect the user and user data" when the thread is specifically about > *one* file, in *one* specific situation, which is a crash backtrace. It's in fact as far as you can get from irrelevant. That's precisely what this bug report is about: the placement by Emacs of that "*one* file, in *one* specific situation, which is a crash backtrace", into a user folder. So perhaps this bug report is altogether irrelevant and a distraction to you. Fair enough. What can I say, in that case? We're back to agreeing to disagree. I think that that *one* case of disrespecting users should be removed; you think that that regression should stay, because it is an improvement. We apparently do not disagree about the other cases for this new feature: the cases where user folders are not written into. We both are in favor of the new feature in those cases. We apparently disagree only about that *one* corner case, where Emacs apparently cannot do otherwise than to write its backtrace into a user folder. That's the case this bug report is about.