From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rudi Schlatte Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#35504: 26.2; Key `g' should run `package-menu-refresh' in the *Packages* buffer Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 18:00:27 +0200 Message-ID: References: <871s1jwl3q.fsf@tcd.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.8\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="25404"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 35504@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier To: "Basil L. 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Contovounesios = wrote: >=20 > Rudi Schlatte writes: >=20 >> The =E2=80=98g=E2=80=99 key seems to be the standard way to refresh a = list of things. >> For example, =E2=80=98g=E2=80=99 runs =E2=80=98gnus-group-get-new-news=E2= =80=99 in the gnus *Group* >> buffer and =E2=80=98revert-buffer=E2=80=99 in vc-dir-mode. In the = package list, >> =E2=80=98package-menu-refresh=E2=80=99 is run by the =E2=80=98r=E2=80=99= key instead. >>=20 >> Since =E2=80=98g=E2=80=99 is unbound in =E2=80=98package-menu-mode=E2=80= =99, could a binding be added to >> run =E2=80=98package-menu-refresh=E2=80=99 for that key? >=20 > It is not unbound; it is bound to the standard command revert-buffer, > which in this case calls tabulated-list-revert, which in turn runs > tabulated-list-revert-hook, which in turn calls package-menu--refresh. Thanks for having a look! I could swear I checked whether `g' was bound = or not, but apparently I didn't. Anyway, allow me to rephrase my bug = report from a more end-user-y perspective. Pressing `g' in a gnus group buffer connects to the network, fetches new = data from various servers, and updates the buffer accordingly. The key = `r' achieves the same effect in a package list buffer: I can see Emacs = contacting the servers set up in `package-archives', get a message how = many packages can be updated, etc. The `g' key, on the other hand, does = not do that in a package list buffer. I find my fingers still wanting to press `g' to achieve the effect of = `r' after some months of retraining, hence the bug report. FWIW, I completely agree with the "Wishlist" severity you set for the = bug. Thanks again, Rudi=