From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: "51465-done@debbugs.gnu.org" <51465-done@debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: bug#51465: [External] : Re: bug#51465: 27.2; `face-all-attributes' doc or behavior (?)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2021 16:11:22 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CO6PR10MB547344B3BC2ACFEDC3545318F3879@CO6PR10MB5473.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83y26cqoo9.fsf@gnu.org>
> No, it isn't wrong: the "default attributes for newly created frames"
> are those the face has before applying the definitions in defface.
Hopefully that is what you've added to the doc, to clarify it.
> > I'm hoping you at least see a possibility for
> > confusion in the doc.
>
> Thanks, I've now clarified the documentation on the release branch to
> be more specific about the meaning of "default" in this context, and
> made sure the same explanation appears in both face-attribute and
> face-all-attributes.
Thank you. I'll assume it's clearer now.
That said and done, what a user expects as the
"default" behavior (for new frames, for example)
is very likely to differ from this other kind of
"default".
I hope you've come up with some terminology to
distinguish the two, i.e., some way to talk about
(what I expect is) the more immediate/likely user
understanding of "default" for new frames.
> It's just a complex issue, and it isn't easy to
> explain it clearly to readers that aren't necessarily
> privy to the implementation details. Hopefully, it's
> more clear now.
Thank you for trying, here and in the doc.
> > (what's the point of returning `unspecified' everywhere?).
>
> Only if no default values were defined via set-face-attribute.
OK, but what's the point in that case, even if
it's the only case? Not a rhetorical question.
I expect there is some use/point; but I have no
idea what it might be.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-10-29 16:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-10-28 19:08 bug#51465: 27.2; `face-all-attributes' doc or behavior (?) Drew Adams
2021-10-28 19:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-28 23:08 ` bug#51465: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-10-29 7:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-29 16:11 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2021-10-29 16:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
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