From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#4787: 23.1; in Customize, after showing Lisp expression, how to see normal? 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It now seems to be impossible to get back the normal display, i.e., to not see the Lisp expression anymore. In fact, the 3 menu items For Current Display, For All Displays, and Show Lisp Expression are 3 _alternatives_. They should be radio-button menu items, not just normal menu items. And the item names should be parallel. There is no understandable relation between "For Current Display", for instance, and "Show Lisp Expression". Those don't seem to have anything to do with each other. There is no way to guess that these are alternatives. I even started to write this bug saying that there was no way to get back the normal display. Fiddling and trying things, I eventually discovered that For Current Display did the job. This is NOT AT ALL obvious - horrible UI. This is a regression wrt Emacs 21 (and 20), where the menu items were clear. In GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2009-07-29 on SOFT-MJASON Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.4)'