From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9669: 24.0.50; `tramp-compat.el' in *Help* when it doesn't belong (?) 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Didn't think of it before. 1. I see the same problem for any function that is not defined at top level, e.g., when the `defun' is inside a top-level (when (...): (when (fboundp 'map-keymap) (defun icicle-complete-keys...)...) C-h f icicle-complete-keys icicle-complete-keys is an interactive compiled Lisp function. 2. I compile the files using Emacs 20, not Emacs 24. Maybe #2 is the root of the problem? I see the same problem in Emacs 23.3. But in Emacs 22.3 I do not see it (still using *.elc compiled with Emacs 20). This is what Emacs 22.3 says: icicle-display-completion-list is a compiled Lisp function in `icicles-fn.el'. Dunno whether this can be fixed for Emacs 23+, if in fact the version the files are compiled in is the problem. I know that Emacs 23+-specific functionality is generally not available using files compiled with an earlier version. But functionality that is not Emacs 23+-specific still works fine. HTH.