From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#46621: Copy line Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2022 18:51:42 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87tuq99ova.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <07496A25-CD5D-46E6-8F1C-7BD29143F3C8@acm.org> <87o7yoyj38.fsf@gnus.org> <449B2624-107D-4083-AE74-989F39C93936@acm.org> <871qvkvft6.fsf@gnus.org> <181B4CC3-B934-45AE-A7E8-9AF2B70C302E@acm.org> <87bkum1eyc.fsf@gnus.org> <861qvikk4l.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87zgi5uyr1.fsf@gnus.org> <86o7yl9oc4.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <878rppuo9j.fsf@gnus.org> <4700ED98-0A31-4E78-9626-5F3952351EA8@acm.org> <86bkujqo3l.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.13\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39747"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 46621@debbugs.gnu.org, Simen =?UTF-8?Q?Heggest=C3=B8yl?= , Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 25 18:52:26 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o591F-000A89-Hr for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 25 Jun 2022 18:52:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54000 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o591D-00031E-Uq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 25 Jun 2022 12:52:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43492) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o590s-00030H-Rk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jun 2022 12:52:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:52230) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o590s-0002pT-J6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jun 2022 12:52:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o590s-00065y-Du for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jun 2022 12:52:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2022 16:52:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 46621 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 46621-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B46621.165617591023410 (code B ref 46621); Sat, 25 Jun 2022 16:52:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 46621) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jun 2022 16:51:50 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46127 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o590g-00065V-Fy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jun 2022 12:51:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mail177c50.megamailservers.eu ([91.136.10.187]:55496 helo=mail51c50.megamailservers.eu) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o590d-00065L-Ri for 46621@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jun 2022 12:51:49 -0400 X-Authenticated-User: mattiase@bredband.net DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=megamailservers.eu; s=maildub; t=1656175906; bh=arnfs0qT/9ABgHrDxZwFaTE8qKigmXUYT0H0O62xPrE=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To:From; b=gNcaYZzzbaskboG54Tr5thmdHDfbCu2I8HS1LqW6Zl5yfSFMhXnA76lkVv/oHUE/X 0/9G2I+EQb5JETIdYEf96dpTuDe+G1nHjyE2aRepBpvADQfffiaK6P5QjzqdPwWhLl pA/+HZpxmNZEv0Lj6k0hb89t0aJbR+Xq6Ia6M/Tw= Feedback-ID: mattiase@acm.or Original-Received: from smtpclient.apple (c188-150-171-71.bredband.tele2.se [188.150.171.71]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail51c50.megamailservers.eu (8.14.9/8.13.1) with ESMTP id 25PGphIB046040; Sat, 25 Jun 2022 16:51:44 +0000 In-Reply-To: <86bkujqo3l.fsf@mail.linkov.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.13) X-Origin-Country: SE X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:235283 Archived-At: 23 juni 2022 kl. 19.35 skrev Juri Linkov : > Usually I duplicate only 1 line, and in 100% of cases the cursor needs > to be on the copied line to start editing it. But when duplicating > more lines with a prefix arg, often it's expected to have the cursor > on the top copied line to start editing copied lines top-down. > I wonder if this is a common use case. If only one duplicate was made then perhaps it doesn't matter that much = if the cursor has to be moved down one step before editing? (I don't = find it to be 100 % of the cases at all; sometimes I want the modified = line to be above the original line, sometimes below.) >> * A single-key binding (like H-y but not C-x y) makes quite >> a difference because that way I can quickly stutter out copies as >> needed without having to plan ahead and use prefix arguments. >=20 > I don't believe everyone would agree on such short keys. Quite the contrary, they definitely would! What they wouldn't agree on = is what pre-existing binding to repurpose. Fortunately there are still a few single-key bindings available. > Maybe better to try finding a key in the 'C-x x' keymap > (that already contains a line-related binding 'C-x x t' > `toggle-truncate-lines'). Unfortunately that removes some of the convenience that the command = would bring. I can't see anyone typing `C-x x d` (for example) 3 times = in a row to get 3 copies, much less 7 times. >> * Rectangle duplication is very useful when editing tables or code >> with similar structure. Compared to copy-paste, it saves a lot of >> cursor movement and permits immediate repetition if more than one = copy >> is required. >=20 > Shouldn't rectangle command be on the 'C-x r' keymap? No, no special binding should be necessary. That's the point. (Several = commands work specially on an active rectangle.) > There are already copy-rectangle-as-kill and yank-rectangle. > OTOH, it seems 'M-w C-y' already can duplicate rectangle > regions? Not nearly as conveniently. Try it and you'll see. - You can make another copy immediately without having to move the = cursor, just by pressing the key again. - You keep the marked rectangle for any operation (cut, copy, delete, = etc). - You keep the kill-ring unmodified for your own purposes.