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* bug#44554: 27.1; Feature request: SRFI-62 style comments for Emacs Lisp.
@ 2020-11-10 14:04 Vladimir Nikishkin
  2020-11-10 14:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
                   ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Vladimir Nikishkin @ 2020-11-10 14:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 44554


Honourable Emacs developers.

As Emacs Lisp is becoming more and more a general purpose and high
performance language, would the development team consider extending the
Emacs Lisp reader syntax to allow for a more flexible kind of comments?

A formal specification can be found at
https://srfi.schemers.org/srfi-62/srfi-62.html

However, and informal specification would be illustrated by the
following example:

```
#;(defvar demo-variable nil
  "This is a demo-variable declared to illustrate SRFI-62.")
```

The special reader syntax "#;" means "please, ignore the next valid
s-expression completely".
The comment itself is almost and s-expression, which allows to maintain
full homoiconicity of the source file, and manipulate the comment
contents easier.

I hope that this proposal may be useful not just for me, but for other
Emacs Lisp developers.

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-- 
Vladimir Nikishkin (MiEr, lockywolf)
(Laptop)





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* bug#44554: 27.1; Feature request: SRFI-62 style comments for Emacs Lisp.
  2020-11-10 14:04 bug#44554: 27.1; Feature request: SRFI-62 style comments for Emacs Lisp Vladimir Nikishkin
@ 2020-11-10 14:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2020-11-10 15:11   ` Vladimir Nikishkin
                     ` (2 more replies)
  2020-11-10 17:17 ` Francesco Potortì
  2020-11-11 16:10 ` Mattias Engdegård
  2 siblings, 3 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2020-11-10 14:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Vladimir Nikishkin; +Cc: 44554

Vladimir Nikishkin <lockywolf@gmail.com> writes:

> #;(defvar demo-variable nil
>   "This is a demo-variable declared to illustrate SRFI-62.")
> ```
>
> The special reader syntax "#;" means "please, ignore the next valid
> s-expression completely".

Sexp-based comments would certainly be nice, but I wonder whether
comment blocks would be even more useful (if we have to prioritise):

#| this is
a comment |#

The advantage is that you don't have to have syntactically valid things
in comment blocks, while #; requires that you do.  #; also looks like
slightly hard to read if you do stuff like

(foo #;(foobar
        ...
        1)
     zot)

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no





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* bug#44554: 27.1; Feature request: SRFI-62 style comments for Emacs Lisp.
  2020-11-10 14:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2020-11-10 15:11   ` Vladimir Nikishkin
  2020-11-10 17:17   ` Drew Adams
  2020-11-10 19:31   ` Jean Louis
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Vladimir Nikishkin @ 2020-11-10 15:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 44554

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Well, fontification usually solves the problem of "slightly hard to read"
for me, because it's usually very different in co colour.

Speaking of block comments, I have no opinion about that. The point of
s-comments is exactly that they keep sexp syntax intact.
Block comments are not expected to do that (even for the human languages
within the comments).

--
Yours sincerely, Vladimir Nikishkin
(Sent with Google mail mobile.)

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> 于 2020年11月10日周二 22:57写道:

> Vladimir Nikishkin <lockywolf@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > #;(defvar demo-variable nil
> >   "This is a demo-variable declared to illustrate SRFI-62.")
> > ```
> >
> > The special reader syntax "#;" means "please, ignore the next valid
> > s-expression completely".
>
> Sexp-based comments would certainly be nice, but I wonder whether
> comment blocks would be even more useful (if we have to prioritise):
>
> #| this is
> a comment |#
>
> The advantage is that you don't have to have syntactically valid things
> in comment blocks, while #; requires that you do.  #; also looks like
> slightly hard to read if you do stuff like
>
> (foo #;(foobar
>         ...
>         1)
>      zot)
>
> --
> (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
>    bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
>

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* bug#44554: 27.1; Feature request: SRFI-62 style comments for Emacs Lisp.
  2020-11-10 14:04 bug#44554: 27.1; Feature request: SRFI-62 style comments for Emacs Lisp Vladimir Nikishkin
  2020-11-10 14:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2020-11-10 17:17 ` Francesco Potortì
  2020-11-10 23:18   ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
  2020-11-11 16:10 ` Mattias Engdegård
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Francesco Potortì @ 2020-11-10 17:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Vladimir Nikishkin; +Cc: 44554

>```
>#;(defvar demo-variable nil
>  "This is a demo-variable declared to illustrate SRFI-62.")
>```
>
>The special reader syntax "#;" means "please, ignore the next valid
>s-expression completely".

I have always dreamt of this :)





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* bug#44554: 27.1; Feature request: SRFI-62 style comments for Emacs Lisp.
  2020-11-10 14:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2020-11-10 15:11   ` Vladimir Nikishkin
@ 2020-11-10 17:17   ` Drew Adams
  2020-11-13 18:32     ` João Távora
  2020-11-10 19:31   ` Jean Louis
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2020-11-10 17:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Ingebrigtsen, Vladimir Nikishkin; +Cc: 44554

> I wonder whether comment blocks would be even more useful
> (if we have to prioritise):
> 
> #| this is
> a comment |#
> 
> The advantage is that you don't have to have syntactically valid things
> in comment blocks, while #; requires that you do.  #; also looks like
> slightly hard to read if you do stuff like
> 
> (foo #;(foobar
>         ...
>         1)
>      zot)

+1 for Common-Lisp block comments.

(And for reader macros, FWIW...)





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* bug#44554: 27.1; Feature request: SRFI-62 style comments for Emacs Lisp.
  2020-11-10 14:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2020-11-10 15:11   ` Vladimir Nikishkin
  2020-11-10 17:17   ` Drew Adams
@ 2020-11-10 19:31   ` Jean Louis
  2020-11-11  5:40     ` Richard Stallman
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Jean Louis @ 2020-11-10 19:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: Vladimir Nikishkin, 44554

* Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> [2020-11-10 18:03]:
> Vladimir Nikishkin <lockywolf@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > #;(defvar demo-variable nil
> >   "This is a demo-variable declared to illustrate SRFI-62.")
> > ```
> >
> > The special reader syntax "#;" means "please, ignore the next valid
> > s-expression completely".
> 
> Sexp-based comments would certainly be nice, but I wonder whether
> comment blocks would be even more useful (if we have to prioritise):
> 
> #| this is
> a comment |#

Voting for CL comment blocks.

It will increase documenting ability of Emacs.

I am using such to accept input from customers online, their human
readable data is shown in the comment blocks, and it is all LISP data
that can be processed.






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* bug#44554: 27.1; Feature request: SRFI-62 style comments for Emacs Lisp.
  2020-11-10 17:17 ` Francesco Potortì
@ 2020-11-10 23:18   ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Jose A. Ortega Ruiz @ 2020-11-10 23:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 44554


since people are voting, here's my +1 for sexp (#;) comments.  i've been
programming in languages that have them almost daily for the last ten
years, and find them invaluable, and better than block comments.

for me, their main advantages are that i commonly have my point at the
beginning of the sexp and don't need to move around to comment it out,
and that they can nest very easily (by that i mean that #;#; would
comment out the next 2 sexps, and so on).  

sexp comments also combine nicely with the fact that most of my
movements over lispy code are sexp-based, and help me not commenting out
by mistake closing parens.

in the much fewer occasions i need a block comment, it's normally easy
to use comment-region, and packages like paredit help there.

(of course if we end up having only block comments, it's trivial writing
an emacs command commenting out the next n sexps using them (or, heck,
even /not/ using them) so i'm fine either way at the end of the day.)

cheers,
jao
-- 
And what should they know of England who only England know? - Kipling






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* bug#44554: 27.1; Feature request: SRFI-62 style comments for Emacs Lisp.
  2020-11-10 19:31   ` Jean Louis
@ 2020-11-11  5:40     ` Richard Stallman
  2020-11-11  5:48       ` Jean Louis
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2020-11-11  5:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jean Louis; +Cc: larsi, lockywolf, 44554

[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]

  > > #| this is
  > > a comment |#

  > Voting for CL comment blocks.

Before deciding to add any syntax to Emacs Lisp,
we must make sure that all the Lisp-parsing commands
can handle them.

If some other Lisp mode handles them already, that suggests
it won't be hard; but we have to verify it works in the context of Emacs Lisp mode before making the decision to add that synatx to EMacs Lisp.

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman
Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)







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* bug#44554: 27.1; Feature request: SRFI-62 style comments for Emacs Lisp.
  2020-11-11  5:40     ` Richard Stallman
@ 2020-11-11  5:48       ` Jean Louis
  2020-11-11  8:18         ` Vladimir Nikishkin
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Jean Louis @ 2020-11-11  5:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Richard Stallman; +Cc: larsi, lockywolf, 44554

* Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> [2020-11-11 08:42]:
> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
> 
>   > > #| this is
>   > > a comment |#
> 
>   > Voting for CL comment blocks.
> 
> Before deciding to add any syntax to Emacs Lisp, we must make sure
> that all the Lisp-parsing commands can handle them.
> 
> If some other Lisp mode handles them already, that suggests it won't
> be hard; but we have to verify it works in the context of Emacs Lisp
> mode before making the decision to add that synatx to EMacs Lisp.

Oh, yes! Thank you, it is understandable. In addition it would cause
many compatibility problems with outside packages and previous
versions of Emacs. 






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* bug#44554: 27.1; Feature request: SRFI-62 style comments for Emacs Lisp.
  2020-11-11  5:48       ` Jean Louis
@ 2020-11-11  8:18         ` Vladimir Nikishkin
  2020-11-11  8:25           ` Jean Louis
  2020-11-11  8:29           ` Andreas Schwab
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Vladimir Nikishkin @ 2020-11-11  8:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jean Louis; +Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen, Richard Stallman, 44554

Just to clarify,

I am not asking that exactly the syntax of srfi-62 as it is be added.
(Although Emacs Lisp already uses #'symbol as a reader-syntax switch,
so I suspect that it is possible)
I am asking for _some_ syntax to comment out valid sexps, whichever
fits Emacs Lisp most.

Vlad

On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 at 15:46, Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> wrote:
>
> * Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> [2020-11-11 08:42]:
> > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
> > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
> > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
> >
> >   > > #| this is
> >   > > a comment |#
> >
> >   > Voting for CL comment blocks.
> >
> > Before deciding to add any syntax to Emacs Lisp, we must make sure
> > that all the Lisp-parsing commands can handle them.
> >
> > If some other Lisp mode handles them already, that suggests it won't
> > be hard; but we have to verify it works in the context of Emacs Lisp
> > mode before making the decision to add that synatx to EMacs Lisp.
>
> Oh, yes! Thank you, it is understandable. In addition it would cause
> many compatibility problems with outside packages and previous
> versions of Emacs.
>


-- 
Yours sincerely, Vladimir Nikishkin
(Sent from GMail web interface.)





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* bug#44554: 27.1; Feature request: SRFI-62 style comments for Emacs Lisp.
  2020-11-11  8:18         ` Vladimir Nikishkin
@ 2020-11-11  8:25           ` Jean Louis
  2020-11-11 14:18             ` Vladimir Nikishkin
  2020-11-12 23:55             ` Eduardo Ochs
  2020-11-11  8:29           ` Andreas Schwab
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Jean Louis @ 2020-11-11  8:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Vladimir Nikishkin; +Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen, Richard Stallman, 44554

* Vladimir Nikishkin <lockywolf@gmail.com> [2020-11-11 11:19]:
> Just to clarify,
> 
> I am not asking that exactly the syntax of srfi-62 as it is be added.
> (Although Emacs Lisp already uses #'symbol as a reader-syntax switch,
> so I suspect that it is possible)
> I am asking for _some_ syntax to comment out valid sexps, whichever
> fits Emacs Lisp most.

Would this work?

'(

)

Or there could be some macro to comment out anything:

(do-not-process

Put anything you wish here.

)






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* bug#44554: 27.1; Feature request: SRFI-62 style comments for Emacs Lisp.
  2020-11-11  8:18         ` Vladimir Nikishkin
  2020-11-11  8:25           ` Jean Louis
@ 2020-11-11  8:29           ` Andreas Schwab
  2020-11-11 22:50             ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Schwab @ 2020-11-11  8:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Vladimir Nikishkin; +Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen, Richard Stallman, Jean Louis, 44554

On Nov 11 2020, Vladimir Nikishkin wrote:

> I am asking for _some_ syntax to comment out valid sexps, whichever
> fits Emacs Lisp most.

The easiest way is to quote it.

Andreas.

-- 
Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org
GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510  2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1
"And now for something completely different."





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* bug#44554: 27.1; Feature request: SRFI-62 style comments for Emacs Lisp.
  2020-11-11  8:25           ` Jean Louis
@ 2020-11-11 14:18             ` Vladimir Nikishkin
  2020-11-12 23:55             ` Eduardo Ochs
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Vladimir Nikishkin @ 2020-11-11 14:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jean Louis; +Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen, Richard Stallman, 44554

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Well, as a "poor man's substitute". A quoted expression is still an
expression, and a macro can't expand to nothing, it will always expand to
at least an empty list.

I would still prefer a robust solution, even if it takes longer.

--
Yours sincerely, Vladimir Nikishkin
(Sent with Google mail mobile.)

Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> 于 2020年11月11日周三 21:57写道:

> * Vladimir Nikishkin <lockywolf@gmail.com> [2020-11-11 11:19]:
> > Just to clarify,
> >
> > I am not asking that exactly the syntax of srfi-62 as it is be added.
> > (Although Emacs Lisp already uses #'symbol as a reader-syntax switch,
> > so I suspect that it is possible)
> > I am asking for _some_ syntax to comment out valid sexps, whichever
> > fits Emacs Lisp most.
>
> Would this work?
>
> '(
>
> )
>
> Or there could be some macro to comment out anything:
>
> (do-not-process
>
> Put anything you wish here.
>
> )
>
>

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* bug#44554: 27.1; Feature request: SRFI-62 style comments for  Emacs Lisp.
  2020-11-10 14:04 bug#44554: 27.1; Feature request: SRFI-62 style comments for Emacs Lisp Vladimir Nikishkin
  2020-11-10 14:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2020-11-10 17:17 ` Francesco Potortì
@ 2020-11-11 16:10 ` Mattias Engdegård
  2020-11-11 16:14   ` Vladimir Nikishkin
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Mattias Engdegård @ 2020-11-11 16:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Vladimir Nikishkin; +Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen, Richard Stallman, 44554

mark-sexp (C-M-SPC) followed by comment-region already works, doesn't it? Not obvious that SRFI-62 comments would be substantially better.

I would very much like not having to update code that parses, lexes, searches, matches, pretty-prints, fontifies, navigates in, browses, indexes or otherwise recognises elisp surface syntax, that I have written over the years in various places -- at least not without a really good reason. Likely I'm not alone.

Sorry about the downbeat tone! I really don't mind syntax improvements, but here it seems unclear that the benefits would outweigh the costs.






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* bug#44554: 27.1; Feature request: SRFI-62 style comments for Emacs Lisp.
  2020-11-11 16:10 ` Mattias Engdegård
@ 2020-11-11 16:14   ` Vladimir Nikishkin
  2020-11-11 16:25     ` Mattias Engdegård
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Vladimir Nikishkin @ 2020-11-11 16:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mattias Engdegård; +Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen, Richard Stallman, 44554

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Well, if your parsers and fontifiers recognize #'symbol constructions,
wouldn't they recognise #; in almost the same way?

--
Yours sincerely, Vladimir Nikishkin
(Sent with Google mail mobile.)

Mattias Engdegård <mattiase@acm.org> 于 2020年11月12日周四 00:11写道:

> mark-sexp (C-M-SPC) followed by comment-region already works, doesn't it?
> Not obvious that SRFI-62 comments would be substantially better.
>
> I would very much like not having to update code that parses, lexes,
> searches, matches, pretty-prints, fontifies, navigates in, browses, indexes
> or otherwise recognises elisp surface syntax, that I have written over the
> years in various places -- at least not without a really good reason.
> Likely I'm not alone.
>
> Sorry about the downbeat tone! I really don't mind syntax improvements,
> but here it seems unclear that the benefits would outweigh the costs.
>
>

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* bug#44554: 27.1; Feature request: SRFI-62 style comments for Emacs Lisp.
  2020-11-11 16:14   ` Vladimir Nikishkin
@ 2020-11-11 16:25     ` Mattias Engdegård
  2020-11-12 12:50       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Mattias Engdegård @ 2020-11-11 16:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Vladimir Nikishkin; +Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen, Richard Stallman, 44554

11 nov. 2020 kl. 17.14 skrev Vladimir Nikishkin <lockywolf@gmail.com>:

> Well, if your parsers and fontifiers recognize #'symbol constructions, wouldn't they recognise #; in almost the same way?

No, not without modification. For example, #; would be treated as # and a comment removing the rest of the line by most existing lexers.

And it's not just my code.






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* bug#44554: 27.1; Feature request: SRFI-62 style comments for Emacs Lisp.
  2020-11-11  8:29           ` Andreas Schwab
@ 2020-11-11 22:50             ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Jose A. Ortega Ruiz @ 2020-11-11 22:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 44554

On Wed, Nov 11 2020, Andreas Schwab wrote:

> On Nov 11 2020, Vladimir Nikishkin wrote:
>
>> I am asking for _some_ syntax to comment out valid sexps, whichever
>> fits Emacs Lisp most.
>
> The easiest way is to quote it.

(+ 3 '2 1) -> 6
(+ 3 #;2 1) -> 4

(+ 3 '(+ 1 2)) -> error
(+ 3 #;(+ 1 2)) -> 3






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* bug#44554: 27.1; Feature request: SRFI-62 style comments for Emacs Lisp.
  2020-11-11 16:25     ` Mattias Engdegård
@ 2020-11-12 12:50       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2020-11-12 18:16         ` Drew Adams
  2020-11-13  0:38         ` Stefan Kangas
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2020-11-12 12:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mattias Engdegård; +Cc: Vladimir Nikishkin, Richard Stallman, 44554

Mattias Engdegård <mattiase@acm.org> writes:

> No, not without modification. For example, #; would be treated as #
> and a comment removing the rest of the line by most existing lexers.
>
> And it's not just my code.

Sure, it would be a new feature, and older lexers wouldn't understand
the new grammar, but that's true of (almost) any new language feature.
The question is whether this feature is useful enough to warrant the
pain inflicted, and...  I guess there isn't all that much enthusiasm for
it?  To me it sounds more like "that'd be neat" instead of "yeah, I can
see myself using it all the time".

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no





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* bug#44554: 27.1; Feature request: SRFI-62 style comments for Emacs Lisp.
  2020-11-12 12:50       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2020-11-12 18:16         ` Drew Adams
  2020-11-12 20:11           ` Juri Linkov
  2020-11-13  0:38         ` Stefan Kangas
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2020-11-12 18:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Ingebrigtsen, Mattias Engdegård
  Cc: Vladimir Nikishkin, Richard Stallman, 44554

> > No, not without modification. For example, #; would be treated as #
> > and a comment removing the rest of the line by most existing lexers.
> > And it's not just my code.
> 
> Sure, it would be a new feature, and older lexers wouldn't understand
> the new grammar, but that's true of (almost) any new language feature.

If we had reader macros, and more generally a
user-configurable reader, like Common Lisp, then
maybe (?) users could adapt (e.g. disable or
whatever) such new constructs programmatically,
with Lisp.

Of course, if that were added then there would
at least be a one-time adaptation to it needed.






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* bug#44554: 27.1; Feature request: SRFI-62 style comments for Emacs Lisp.
  2020-11-12 18:16         ` Drew Adams
@ 2020-11-12 20:11           ` Juri Linkov
  2020-11-12 20:44             ` Drew Adams
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Juri Linkov @ 2020-11-12 20:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Drew Adams
  Cc: Mattias Engdegård, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 44554,
	Vladimir Nikishkin, Richard Stallman

>> > No, not without modification. For example, #; would be treated as #
>> > and a comment removing the rest of the line by most existing lexers.
>> > And it's not just my code.
>> 
>> Sure, it would be a new feature, and older lexers wouldn't understand
>> the new grammar, but that's true of (almost) any new language feature.
>
> If we had reader macros, and more generally a
> user-configurable reader, like Common Lisp, then
> maybe (?) users could adapt (e.g. disable or
> whatever) such new constructs programmatically,
> with Lisp.

I don't know if there is such a feature as transcompiling in Common Lisp
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source-to-source_compiler
but it should be possible to create a transpiler package that could help
to load Emacs Lisp files with newer syntax in older Emacs versions.





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* bug#44554: 27.1; Feature request: SRFI-62 style comments for Emacs Lisp.
  2020-11-12 20:11           ` Juri Linkov
@ 2020-11-12 20:44             ` Drew Adams
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2020-11-12 20:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Juri Linkov
  Cc: Mattias Engdegård, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 44554,
	Vladimir Nikishkin, Richard Stallman

> > If we had reader macros, and more generally a
> > user-configurable reader, like Common Lisp, then
> > maybe (?) users could adapt (e.g. disable or
> > whatever) such new constructs programmatically,
> > with Lisp.
> 
> I don't know if there is such a feature as transcompiling in Common
> Lisp
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source-to-
> source_compiler__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!LRZ90JJlz_AJMQw1M9NIPUgK3V76G9TDlhLoGz
> KzsknMnjUYOaJNZ1i8rwnHKDDn$
> but it should be possible to create a transpiler package that could
> help to load Emacs Lisp files with newer syntax in older Emacs versions.

Interesting; thanks.





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* bug#44554: 27.1; Feature request: SRFI-62 style comments for Emacs Lisp.
  2020-11-11  8:25           ` Jean Louis
  2020-11-11 14:18             ` Vladimir Nikishkin
@ 2020-11-12 23:55             ` Eduardo Ochs
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Eduardo Ochs @ 2020-11-12 23:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jean Louis; +Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen, Vladimir Nikishkin, 44554, Richard Stallman

I use this a lot in my elip files, but with a space between the
initial apostrophe and the open perenthesis, like this:

;; A test:
' (let ((ee-youtubedl-dirs '("DIR1" "DIR2")))
    (find-youtubedl-links))

Without the space after the apostrophe a C-x C-e after the sexp would
just return the (let ...) instead of executing it. I like this trick
because it works anywhere and beginners understand it in seconds.

  Cheers,
    Eduardo Ochs
    http://angg.twu.net/#eev
    http://angg.twu.net/emacsconf2019.html


On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 at 10:59, Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> wrote:
>
> * Vladimir Nikishkin <lockywolf@gmail.com> [2020-11-11 11:19]:
> > Just to clarify,
> >
> > I am not asking that exactly the syntax of srfi-62 as it is be added.
> > (Although Emacs Lisp already uses #'symbol as a reader-syntax switch,
> > so I suspect that it is possible)
> > I am asking for _some_ syntax to comment out valid sexps, whichever
> > fits Emacs Lisp most.
>
> Would this work?
>
> '(
>
> )
>
> Or there could be some macro to comment out anything:
>
> (do-not-process
>
> Put anything you wish here.
>
> )





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* bug#44554: 27.1; Feature request: SRFI-62 style comments for Emacs Lisp.
  2020-11-12 12:50       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2020-11-12 18:16         ` Drew Adams
@ 2020-11-13  0:38         ` Stefan Kangas
  2020-11-13 13:24           ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2020-11-13 21:03           ` Tassilo Horn
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Kangas @ 2020-11-13  0:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Ingebrigtsen, Mattias Engdegård
  Cc: Vladimir Nikishkin, Richard Stallman, 44554

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> The question is whether this feature is useful enough to warrant the
> pain inflicted, and...  I guess there isn't all that much enthusiasm for
> it?  To me it sounds more like "that'd be neat" instead of "yeah, I can
> see myself using it all the time".

FWIW, I for one would appreciate SRFI-62 style comments.  I often find
myself commenting out otherwise valid sexps, and the added convenience
would be nice.  Just today I had a debugging session where they would
have definitely made things a bit more comfortable, especially given
that they nest easily.

That said, I won't exactly bring out the torches and pitchforks if the
proposal gets rejected.

(I don't have enough experience with Common Lisp to say much about the
#||#-comments.)





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* bug#44554: 27.1; Feature request: SRFI-62 style comments for Emacs Lisp.
  2020-11-13  0:38         ` Stefan Kangas
@ 2020-11-13 13:24           ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2020-11-13 13:47             ` Stefan Kangas
  2020-11-13 21:03           ` Tassilo Horn
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2020-11-13 13:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stefan Kangas
  Cc: Mattias Engdegård, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 44554,
	Vladimir Nikishkin, Richard Stallman

Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com> writes:

> Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
>
>> The question is whether this feature is useful enough to warrant the
>> pain inflicted, and...  I guess there isn't all that much enthusiasm for
>> it?  To me it sounds more like "that'd be neat" instead of "yeah, I can
>> see myself using it all the time".
>
> FWIW, I for one would appreciate SRFI-62 style comments.  I often find
> myself commenting out otherwise valid sexps, and the added convenience
> would be nice.  Just today I had a debugging session where they would
> have definitely made things a bit more comfortable, especially given
> that they nest easily.
>
> That said, I won't exactly bring out the torches and pitchforks if the
> proposal gets rejected.
>
> (I don't have enough experience with Common Lisp to say much about the
> #||#-comments.)

My 2 cents,

I like the idea of a dedicated syntax to comment out sexps.

That said I believe `comment-dwim' solves already this problem to a good
degree for me.

given:

(foo (bar))

having as a region '(bar)' M-; produces

(foo ;; (bar)
     )

I indeed use it quite frequently.

  Andrea





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* bug#44554: 27.1; Feature request: SRFI-62 style comments for Emacs Lisp.
  2020-11-13 13:24           ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2020-11-13 13:47             ` Stefan Kangas
  2020-11-13 14:07               ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Kangas @ 2020-11-13 13:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrea Corallo
  Cc: Mattias Engdegård, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 44554,
	Vladimir Nikishkin, Richard Stallman

Andrea Corallo <akrl@sdf.org> writes:

> That said I believe `comment-dwim' solves already this problem to a good
> degree for me.
>
> given:
>
> (foo (bar))
>
> having as a region '(bar)' M-; produces
>
> (foo ;; (bar)
>      )

Indeed.

What's less fun is when you have to back the change out, or when you
want to incrementally comment out a nested sexp.  It works well, but
it's a wee bit fiddly.

For example, given:

(foo (bar ...
          (baz ...)))

With `comment-dwim', I might get something like:

(foo ;; (bar ...
     ;;      ;; (baz ...)
     ;;      )
     )

This would be more convenient:

(foo #;(bar ...
          #;(baz ...)))





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* bug#44554: 27.1; Feature request: SRFI-62 style comments for Emacs Lisp.
  2020-11-13 13:47             ` Stefan Kangas
@ 2020-11-13 14:07               ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2020-11-13 14:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stefan Kangas
  Cc: Mattias Engdegård, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 44554,
	Vladimir Nikishkin, Richard Stallman

Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com> writes:

> Andrea Corallo <akrl@sdf.org> writes:
>
>> That said I believe `comment-dwim' solves already this problem to a good
>> degree for me.
>>
>> given:
>>
>> (foo (bar))
>>
>> having as a region '(bar)' M-; produces
>>
>> (foo ;; (bar)
>>      )
>
> Indeed.
>
> What's less fun is when you have to back the change out, or when you
> want to incrementally comment out a nested sexp.  It works well, but
> it's a wee bit fiddly.
>
> For example, given:
>
> (foo (bar ...
>           (baz ...)))
>
> With `comment-dwim', I might get something like:
>
> (foo ;; (bar ...
>      ;;      ;; (baz ...)
>      ;;      )
>      )
>
> This would be more convenient:
>
> (foo #;(bar ...
>           #;(baz ...)))

Agree, that's one of the reasons why I agree would be nice to have ;)

As typically we do not commit commented code is no big deal as we
probably (at least I) revert the unnecessary diff hunks, but yeah would
be an improvement.  Also uncommenting would put the code in the initial
state instead of leaving unnecessary newlines.

  Andrea





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* bug#44554: 27.1; Feature request: SRFI-62 style comments for Emacs Lisp.
  2020-11-10 17:17   ` Drew Adams
@ 2020-11-13 18:32     ` João Távora
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: João Távora @ 2020-11-13 18:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Drew Adams; +Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen, Vladimir Nikishkin, 44554

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On Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 17:22 Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> wrote:

> > I wonder whether comment blocks would be even more useful
> > (if we have to prioritise):
> >
> > #| this is
> > a comment |#
> >
> > The advantage is that you don't have to have syntactically valid things
> > in comment blocks, while #; requires that you do.  #; also looks like
> > slightly hard to read if you do stuff like
> >
> > (foo #;(foobar
> >         ...
> >         1)
> >      zot)
>
> +1 for Common-Lisp block comments.
>

+1. Let's not stray away from existing solutions.

(And for reader macros, FWIW...)
>

+2 Yep, just make a programmable reader.

Even without such a thing, reader conditionals are just what's requested
here.

João

>

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* bug#44554: 27.1; Feature request: SRFI-62 style comments for Emacs Lisp.
  2020-11-13  0:38         ` Stefan Kangas
  2020-11-13 13:24           ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2020-11-13 21:03           ` Tassilo Horn
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Tassilo Horn @ 2020-11-13 21:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stefan Kangas
  Cc: Mattias Engdegård, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 44554,
	Vladimir Nikishkin, Richard Stallman

Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com> writes:

> FWIW, I for one would appreciate SRFI-62 style comments.  I often find
> myself commenting out otherwise valid sexps, and the added convenience
> would be nice.

Same for me.  Some years ago when I've programmed in Clojure most of the
time which has those comments in the form of #_(+ 1 2 3), I found it
increadibly useful and convenient during experimentation with the code,
i.e., the ability to inactivate some part of a deeply nested form and
temporarily replace it with some alternative, switch back and forth,
etc.

Bye,
Tassilo





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