From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Copley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#25875: 26.0.50; Hang logging out of MS-Windows Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2017 07:21:04 +0000 Message-ID: References: <83lgsuqacv.fsf@gnu.org> <83efylq7m4.fsf@gnu.org> <834lzgreqq.fsf@gnu.org> <3f07808e-ab1c-d6b5-9ea0-dfc4c6fd6fc9@cornell.edu> <8337f0rbz6.fsf@gnu.org> <648f03f0-e4d4-c04e-afbf-d8ef8741b15e@cornell.edu> <8360jvoumt.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1488266533 32190 195.159.176.226 (28 Feb 2017 07:22:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2017 07:22:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 25875@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 28 08:22:09 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cic6p-0007mD-Sy for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Mon, 27 Feb 2017 23:21:35 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.176.71.214 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Feb 2017 23:21:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8360jvoumt.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:129928 Archived-At: On 28 February 2017 at 03:35, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Richard Copley >> Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 23:03:26 +0000 >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 25875@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> Please imagine: I report back after a week (or two, or four) and tell >> you that Emacs didn't prevent any Windows shutdowns. In that time >> I might have attempted to shut down Windows a handful of times. >> >> Will you have learned anything, anything at all? > > How representative would the above sample be, relative to the > frequency of the problem you see when shutting down Windows? If you > see such problems almost every shutdown, then yes, we'd be learning a > lot. In the nine months since Ken's change, I've noticed a problem with Emacs twice. Ken, Eli, are you going to be running Emacs with that patch installed? I can't get my head around the idea. If we don't care whether or not the action in question has finished when SendMessage returns, then why are we using SendMessage? And if we do care, then shouldn't I expect weird bugs caused by timing out when the system's under load?