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From: Richard Copley <rcopley@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 22202@debbugs.gnu.org, Demetri Obenour <demetriobenour@gmail.com>,
	David Engster <deng@randomsample.de>
Subject: bug#22202: 24.5; SECURITY ISSUE -- Emacs Server vulnerable to random number generator attack on Windows systems
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 20:47:40 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPM58og228ywWcOcTzHwzo9-cceossV2FtDciup6sAWhDiZjMg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83mvssc4ix.fsf@gnu.org>

> Can you audit the patch below?  I know next to nothing about
> cryptography, and I'm not sure I understood all the flags involved in
> these APIs.

Sure! But please bear in mind I'm not experienced in crypto
either.

With regard to API usage: The call to CryptAcquireContext looks good
to me. (The comment about interoperability in the documentation for
the parameter "pszProvider" does not apply as we are not inter-
operating with anything. Setting "pszContainer" to NULL, as you have
done, is explicitly recommended. The docs for the individual flags
entail the very value of "dwFlags" that you use.) I can see nothing
else to comment on.

Re performance: using CryptGenRandom to provide a seed for srand
is enough to address Demetri's concern. For performance reasons,
as you said, implementing random() with CryptGenRandom is
potentially bad. I think random() itself should not be changed.

That said, rand() makes me uncomfortable (mostly because of bugs in
long-gone implementations, and superstition). Given the chance I would
replace it with an xorshift* generator. The generator at [1] seeded
with 64 bits from CryptGenRandom should give good performance for
random() and (I guess!) an effectively unassailable server secret.

But I have no good reason to claim that rand() is not good enough.

Thank you Eli.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Xorshift&oldid=697235156#xorshift.2A





  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-30 20:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-18 10:05 bug#22202: 24.5; SECURITY ISSUE -- Emacs Server vulnerable to random number generator attack on Windows systems Demetri Obenour
2015-12-18 10:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-29 15:36 ` Richard Copley
2015-12-29 16:21   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-29 17:44     ` Richard Copley
2015-12-29 20:00       ` David Engster
2015-12-29 21:22         ` Richard Copley
2015-12-29 22:02           ` David Engster
2015-12-29 23:13             ` Richard Copley
2015-12-30 15:58           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-30 20:47             ` Richard Copley [this message]
2015-12-30 20:56               ` Richard Copley
2015-12-30 20:56               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-30 21:15                 ` Richard Copley
2015-12-31 14:14                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-31 17:04               ` Demetrios Obenour
2015-12-31 17:24                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-31 17:47                   ` Richard Copley
2015-12-31 18:22                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-31 19:20                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-31 19:49                   ` Richard Copley
2015-12-31 20:13                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-31 20:44                       ` Richard Copley
2016-01-15  9:55                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-17 20:26 ` Paul Eggert
2016-01-18  1:42   ` Paul Eggert
2016-01-18 14:40     ` Richard Copley
2016-01-18 16:05       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-18 16:20         ` Richard Copley
2016-01-18 15:45   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-18 20:50     ` Paul Eggert
2016-01-18 21:09       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-19  5:34         ` Paul Eggert
2016-01-19 16:24           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-19 17:03             ` John Wiegley
2016-01-19 17:38               ` Paul Eggert
2016-01-19 18:44                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-19 17:07             ` Paul Eggert
2016-01-19 18:16               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-20  0:39                 ` Paul Eggert
2016-01-18 12:04 ` Andy Moreton
2016-01-18 15:57   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-18 23:03   ` John Wiegley
2016-01-19 21:48 ` Andy Moreton
2016-01-20  3:31   ` Glenn Morris
2016-01-20 14:06 ` Andy Moreton
2016-01-20 14:12   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-20 15:15 ` Andy Moreton

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