From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reuben Thomas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18716: 24.3; dired-omit-extensions's default value omits COPYING.LIB Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 20:05:21 +0100 Message-ID: References: <8761fm903w.fsf@sc3d.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113471203d127605057ad066 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1413399983 3549 80.91.229.3 (15 Oct 2014 19:06:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 19:06:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 18716@debbugs.gnu.org, Andreas Schwab To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 15 21:06:17 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XeTtm-0005fY-R3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 21:06:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46342 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XeTtm-00043M-Dd for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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charset=UTF-8 On 15 October 2014 18:59, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > This isn't really the forum for discussing the naming of a GNU license > > file. dired-omit-mode deals sub-optimally with this particular name, and > > even if the standard name were changed tomorrow, it would continue to > occur > > in the wild for years; so the real issue is: does it matter enough to fix > > Emacs's treatment of it? > > I think the problem is in the naming of the file, rather than in Emacs's > treatment of files that end in ".LIB". > Although no-one has yet answered my question why Emacs takes these patterns to be case-insensitive even on case-sensitive filing systems. > We could add a special ad-hoc rule for files called COPYING.LIB, but I'd > rather we fix the original problem instead. > "For years" is actually not that long ;-) > My repeated experience over the decades is that absent considerable effort, "for years" rapidly becomes "for decades". Given that we're dealing not just with future but also with past software releases in this case, I'm not optimistic. Nor however do I suggest adding special ad-hoc rules if it's possible to avoid them, hence my question about case. -- http://rrt.sc3d.org --001a113471203d127605057ad066 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 1= 5 October 2014 18:59, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca&= gt; wrote:
> T= his isn't really the forum for discussing the naming of a GNU license > file. dired-omit-mode deals sub-optimally with this particular name, a= nd
> even if the standard name were changed tomorrow, it would continue to = occur
> in the wild for years; so the real issue is: does it matter enough to = fix
> Emacs's treatment of it?

I think the problem is in the naming of the file, rather than in Ema= cs's
treatment of files that end in ".LIB".

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Although no-one has yet answered my question why Emacs takes thes= e patterns to be case-insensitive even on case-sensitive filing systems.
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We could add a special ad-hoc rule for files called COPYING.LIB, but I'= d
rather we fix the original problem instead.
"For years" is actually not that long ;-)

My repeated experience over the decades is that absent considera= ble effort, "for years" rapidly becomes "for decades". = Given that we're dealing not just with future but also with past softwa= re releases in this case, I'm not optimistic.

Nor however do I suggest adding special ad-hoc rules if it= 's possible to avoid them, hence my question about case.
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