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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > By "input system", do you mean a separate language-environment with a > separate input method? That would be OK, I think I meant to say, "input method". Is there a need for a separate language-environment? I think only writing a new input-method will be sufficient, right? On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 9:27 PM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0 =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82= =E0=A4=B9 Sameer Singh > > Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 21:08:09 +0530 > > Cc: Visuwesh , 55493@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > The changes to HELLO do more that the above says. I don't think I > > understand the reason for the change in the "South Asia" line. > > > > The South Asia line was correcting the Odia greeting, which I had > changed previously (from "Listen" to > > "Namaskaar") > > Please reflect that in the log message. > > > This is unrelated, and I see no reason to rename the variable in a > > backward-incompatible way. It's just a variable, so it doesn't have > > to be named rigorously correct. If we were discussing new code, the > > correction would have had its place, but not now, 16 years after it > > was introduced. > > > > This variable name is somewhat misleading. When I searched "iso 638", > online to see whether the language > > codes were updated or not, > > it showed me results for oven boards, later when searching "iso 638 > languages" I realized that the correct > > standard number is 639. > > There was also a FIXME above it, so I fixed that. > > If there is a backward-compatible way to change it please tell me, or i= f > you still feel the change is not > > warranted, I will revert this it. > > A backward-compatible change would need to introduce an obsolete alias > with the old name. > > > I don't think we should rename variables and functions. It's just a > > lot of hassle for us (defalias etc.) and potentially for others, and > > the gain is very small. This variable doesn't even say "oriya", just > > "ori". Let's not be too radical here. > > > > Then I should only rename in etc/HELLO, and in (set-language-info-alist= ) > of lisp/language/indian.el. > > Yes, I think so. > > > We cannot rename an input method we had for almost 20 years. If there > > is some way of having an alias for an input method (I don't think so, > > but maybe I'm missing something), let's use that; otherwise we will > > have either to leave the old name alone or define a new input method > > that is an exact copy of the old one, except for the name and the > > mode-line indicator. > > > > How about I make a new Odia input system, just like the ones which I ha= d > made for the other scripts, and > > leave the old ones alone? > > By "input system", do you mean a separate language-environment with a > separate input method? That would be OK, I think. > > Thanks. > --000000000000bfc6cb05df4ba48b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
By "= ;input system", do you mean a separate language-environment with a
separate input method?=C2=A0 That would be OK, I think
I meant to say, "input method".
Is there a = need for a separate language-environment?
I think only writi= ng a new input-method=C2=A0 will be sufficient, right?
On Wed, M= ay 18, 2022 at 9:27 PM Eli Zaretskii <el= iz@gnu.org> wrote:
> From: =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0 =E0=A4=B8=E0=A4= =BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9 Sameer Singh <lumarzeli30@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 21:08:09 +0530
> Cc: Visuwesh <visuweshm@gmail.com>, 55493@debbugs.gnu.org
>
>=C2=A0 The changes to HELLO do more that the above says.=C2=A0 I don= 9;t think I
>=C2=A0 understand the reason for the change in the "South Asia&quo= t; line.
>
> The South Asia line was correcting the Odia greeting, which I had chan= ged previously (from "Listen" to
> "Namaskaar")

Please reflect that in the log message.

>=C2=A0 This is unrelated, and I see no reason to rename the variable in= a
>=C2=A0 backward-incompatible way.=C2=A0 It's just a variable, so it= doesn't have
>=C2=A0 to be named rigorously correct.=C2=A0 If we were discussing new = code, the
>=C2=A0 correction would have had its place, but not now, 16 years after= it
>=C2=A0 was introduced.
>
> This variable name is somewhat misleading. When I searched "iso 6= 38", online to see whether the language
> codes were updated or not,
>=C2=A0 it showed me results for oven boards, later when searching "= ;iso 638 languages" I realized that the correct
> standard number is 639.
> There was also a FIXME above it, so I fixed that.
> If there is a backward-compatible way to change it please tell me, or = if you still feel the change is not
> warranted, I will revert this it.

A backward-compatible change would need to introduce an obsolete alias
with the old name.

>=C2=A0 I don't think we should rename variables and functions.=C2= =A0 It's just a
>=C2=A0 lot of hassle for us (defalias etc.) and potentially for others,= and
>=C2=A0 the gain is very small.=C2=A0 This variable doesn't even say= "oriya", just
>=C2=A0 "ori".=C2=A0 Let's not be too radical here.
>
> Then I should only rename in etc/HELLO, and in (set-language-info-alis= t) of lisp/language/indian.el.

Yes, I think so.

>=C2=A0 We cannot rename an input method we had for almost 20 years.=C2= =A0 If there
>=C2=A0 is some way of having an alias for an input method (I don't = think so,
>=C2=A0 but maybe I'm missing something), let's use that; otherw= ise we will
>=C2=A0 have either to leave the old name alone or define a new input me= thod
>=C2=A0 that is an exact copy of the old one, except for the name and th= e
>=C2=A0 mode-line indicator.
>
> How about I make a new Odia input system, just like the ones which I h= ad made for the other scripts, and
> leave the old ones alone?

By "input system", do you mean a separate language-environment wi= th a
separate input method?=C2=A0 That would be OK, I think.

Thanks.
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