Hi :) Here's the configuration data for 28.2. I believe it says it was built with --with-native-compilation, but not AOT. Is that where you expect the time difference to come from? In GNU Emacs 28.2 (build 2, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2022-09-13 built on AVALON Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.19045 System Description: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (v10.0.2009.19045.3208) Configured using: 'configure --with-modules --without-dbus --with-native-compilation --without-compress-install CFLAGS=-O2' Configured features: ACL GIF GMP GNUTLS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY W32NOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SOUND THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS XPM ZLIB Important settings: value of $LANG: ENU locale-coding-system: cp1252 Major mode: Fundamental Minor modes in effect: ivy-mode: t override-global-mode: t straight-use-package-mode: t straight-package-neutering-mode: t straight-symlink-emulation-mode: t straight-live-modifications-mode: t global-subword-mode: t subword-mode: t global-auto-revert-mode: t delete-selection-mode: t electric-pair-mode: t global-so-long-mode: t tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t show-paren-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Load-path shadows: c:/Users/yanchith/.emacs.d/straight/build/transient/transient hides c:/Users/yanchith/emacs-28.2/share/emacs/28.2/lisp/transient Features: (shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message rmc puny rfc822 mml mml-sec epa derived epg rfc6068 epg-config gnus-util rmail rmail-loaddefs auth-source eieio eieio-core eieio-loaddefs password-cache json map time-date mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils counsel xdg xref dired dired-loaddefs compile text-property-search comint ansi-color swiper thingatpt vc-mtn vc-hg vc-git diff-mode vc-bzr vc-src vc-sccs vc-svn vc-cvs vc-rcs vc vc-dispatcher project pcase abu-theme wgsl-mode-autoloads glsl-mode-autoloads csharp-mode-autoloads typescript-mode-autoloads rust-mode-autoloads counsel-autoloads swiper-autoloads ivy ring ivy-faces ivy-overlay colir color ivy-autoloads magit-autoloads magit-section-autoloads git-commit-autoloads with-editor-autoloads transient-autoloads compat-autoloads expand-region-autoloads multiple-cursors-autoloads finder-inf move-text-autoloads whitespace f-autoloads dash-autoloads s-autoloads use-package use-package-ensure use-package-delight use-package-diminish use-package-bind-key bind-key use-package-core use-package-autoloads bind-key-autoloads straight-autoloads straight cap-words superword subword autorevert filenotify easy-mmode edmacro kmacro delsel comp comp-cstr warnings subr-x rx cl-seq cl-macs cl-extra help-mode seq byte-opt gv bytecomp byte-compile cconv elec-pair hl-line so-long cl-loaddefs cl-lib iso-transl tooltip eldoc paren electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type elisp-mode mwheel dos-w32 ls-lisp disp-table term/w32-win w32-win w32-vars term/common-win tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch easymenu timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax font-core term/tty-colors frame minibuffer cl-generic cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite emoji-zwj charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev obarray cl-preloaded nadvice button loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp files window text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote threads w32notify w32 lcms2 multi-tty make-network-process native-compile emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 163843 10834) (symbols 48 14325 0) (strings 32 43134 3211) (string-bytes 1 1653802) (vectors 16 26190) (vector-slots 8 480548 10492) (floats 8 124 354) (intervals 56 242 0) (buffers 992 10)) On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 2:49 PM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Yanchi Tóth > > Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2023 11:06:53 +0200 > > > > Emacs 29 RC1 takes around 25ms longer to start without config and about > 25ms with config. These > > timings are the best of 5 runs of emacs-init-time on 29 RC1 and 28.2. > > Was your Emacs 28 also built with --with-native-compilation=aot? Was > it built with native-compilation enabled at all? (You show the > configuration data from the v29.1 build, but not from the 28.2 build, > so I couldn't deduce the answers to those questions myself.) > > In any case, 25 msec is a very small difference. > > Thanks. >