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From: Dave Goel <deego3@gmail.com>
To: 66940@debbugs.gnu.org, deego3@gmail.com
Subject: bug#66940: Dynamic scoping is all weird now?
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2023 00:06:49 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOCW0DjzvUWDO4NhtUiPjahAh7Jwn_T=up=26Gu+KQmMubzF7Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)

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I was playing around, checking my sanity re : dynamic scoping.  I'm
probably rusty, but I could swear that on older emacsen, this sort of code
would print 33 ten times.


On emacs -Q with debian stable (28.2).
I try this


(progn
  (setq lexical-binding nil)

  (dotimes (ii 10)
    (defmacro mac ()
      `(message "%S" ,ii)
      (sit-for 0.1))
    (let ((old_ii ii))
      (setq ii 33)
      (mac)
      (setq ii old_ii)
      )))

Exits without error the first two times, although, strangely, i don't see
any messages the second time. (I expected to see ten 33's).


*(a) As in, the second time, it doesn't print 33 ten times, as we would
expect.*
*(b) The third time is stranger. *
Let's evaluate it a third time! The third time is even weirder.
The third time, it complains
Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable ii)
  (list 'message "%S" ii)
  (lambda nil (list 'message "%S" ii) (list 'print ii) (sit-for 0.1))()
  macroexpand((mac) nil)
  macroexp-macroexpand((mac) nil)
  macroexp--expand-all((mac))
  macroexp--all-forms(((setq ii 33) (mac) (setq ii old_ii)))
  macroexp--expand-all((let ((old_ii ii)) (setq ii 33) (mac) (setq ii
old_ii)))

and so on.


The bug(?) was reproduced on 29.1 as well - by e1f on #emacs

*(c) It gets even funnier. e1f changed ii to var, but the third time, it
still complained about ii, with the above error message, and not about var.*
I reproduced that as well.

Dave

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             reply	other threads:[~2023-11-05  4:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-05  4:06 Dave Goel [this message]
2023-11-05  4:09 ` bug#66940: Dynamic scoping is all weird now? Dave Goel
2023-11-05  6:04   ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-05  6:58     ` Dave Goel
2023-11-05  7:25       ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-05  8:12         ` Dave Goel
2023-11-05  8:39           ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-05 19:07             ` Dave Goel
2023-11-05 20:21               ` Dave Goel
2023-11-06  1:52               ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-06  6:25                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-06 16:49                   ` Drew Adams
2023-11-06  6:57                 ` Dave Goel
2023-11-07  5:59                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-08  2:49                     ` Dave Goel
2023-11-08  3:08                       ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-08  3:21                         ` Dave Goel

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