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From: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez <paaguti@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 71356@debbugs.gnu.org, Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>,
	acorallo@gnu.org
Subject: bug#71356: use-package doesn't load org from elpa
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2024 18:51:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAO48Bk8wTW+5KpNZrVt-dnCEfDCBFCukD9ACLpV9a88Dw-mRXw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86cyoo93pw.fsf@gnu.org>

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We don't want to change what :pin means, IMHO we need it to obey
`package-install-upgrade-built-in`.
That wouldn't be incompatible, right?

So the sketch that actually loads org from elpa would be

(let ((package-install-upgrade-built-in t))
  (use-package org
    :ensure t :pin gnu))

whereas

  (use-package org
    :ensure t :pin gnu)

would keep the original org packaged with emacs (called with emacs -Q)

Best, /PA


On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 at 18:12, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:

> > From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
> > Cc: Andrea Corallo <acorallo@gnu.org>,  paaguti@gmail.com,
> >   71356@debbugs.gnu.org
> > Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2024 15:40:58 +0000
> >
> > >> > To me :pin would make perfect sense, as it explicitly expresses what
> > >> > archive we want to follow for package upgrades.
> > >>
> > >> +1, also use-package interface is very declarative and I'm not sure
> > >> having it influenced by a dynamic var would match user expected
> > >> behavior.
> > >
> > > If you prefer, we could add a new :foo keyword to mean this.  But
> > > unconditionally changing what :pin means in these cases is out of the
> > > question.
> >
> > We wouldn't change what :pin means directly, but just have
> > package-install respect `package-pinned-packages'.
>
> How is that different?  It's an incompatible change of behavior, and I
> cannot agree to that, sorry.
>


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  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-10 16:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-04  6:26 bug#71356: use-package doesn't load org from elpa Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2024-06-04 21:44 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-06-05  6:40   ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2024-06-05 11:18   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-05 18:09     ` Andrea Corallo
2024-06-06  5:46       ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2024-06-06  6:02         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-06  6:11           ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2024-06-06  9:15             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-06  6:15           ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-06-06  9:21             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-06 15:07               ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2024-06-06 15:19                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-07  8:05                   ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2024-06-10  6:02               ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-06-10  6:52                 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2024-06-10  8:17                 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-06-10 12:18                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-10 15:40                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-06-10 16:12                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-10 16:51                         ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez [this message]
2024-06-10 17:46                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-10 18:04                             ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-06-11  5:27                             ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2024-06-11  7:29                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-11  7:53                                 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2024-06-10 12:14                 ` Eli Zaretskii

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