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From: Klaus-Dieter Bauer <bauer.klaus.dieter@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 24918@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#24918: 25.1; Fonts can make Emacs grind to a halt
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 11:29:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANtbJLGr59kfGECtBYiwSB9pjv3POG36bh7LmA79E5nhhPV2Og@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83lgw3zjvf.fsf@gnu.org>

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The issue occurs with the default fonts too ("emacs -Q"). On Windows that
means `Courier New' for `default' and `Monospace' for `fixed-pitch',
`Monospace Serif` for `fixed-pitch-serif' and `Arial` for `variable-pitch'.

With these default settings, the `package-list-packages' buffer works
mostly fine, but the info page `(cl) Structures' for instace does not.
Using different fonts, e.g. `Linux Libertine Mono' or `Noto Mono', the
issue becomes only more widespread.

I detail, I noticed that the issue indeed does occur specifically *when
font substitution kicks in*. In the info-page for `(cl) Structure' this
occurs, because the "=>" is replaced by the unicode symbol "⇒", which is
displayed in a different font; Sadly I can't figure out a way to identify
the substituted font; It is definitely a variable-pitch font (the symbol is
wider than the default font, such that characters are no longer vertically
aligned with other lines).

For such font-substituted characters, there are multiple cases where I
observed delays.

   1. When the character becomes visible in the current window (small delay
   if caused by a single input event, but can crash Emacs when
   scrolling-events, and thus delays, queue up).
   2. When `point' is moved to the line containing the character, either
   with mouse or keyboard (somewhat bigger delay).
   3. When `point' is moved to the character itself, either with mouse or
   keyboard (extensive delay).
   4. Whenever there is any change to the Window-layout (e.g. splitting the
   window, or resizing the frame).

My guess would be that custom fonts only make the issue more apparent,
because font-substitution may become more widespread.

If there is any possibility to identify the font used in font substitution
(it doesn't affect the text-attributes apparently, so C-u C-x = doesn't
help), I could check if the issue is related to one of the fonts I have
installed on my system.

- Klaus


2016-11-28 16:47 GMT+01:00 Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>:

> > From: Klaus-Dieter Bauer <bauer.klaus.dieter@gmail.com>
> > Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 22:12:48 +0100
> > Cc: 24918@debbugs.gnu.org
> >
> > I tried compiling the emacs-25 branch , freshly cloned (25.1.50.1) and
> ran it as "emacs -Q". I hope that is the
> > version you meant.
> >
> > The issue persists unless setting (setq inhibit-compacting-font-caches
> t), as before.
> >
> > It can be reproduced by scrolling (with mouse or keyboard) in info node
> `(cl) Structures'. If scrolling fast, such
> > that the multiple input events queue up while Emacs is hanging, Emacs
> freezes permanently and has to be
> > killed.
>
> Is this because you use the Noto Mono font, or is this with the
> default fonts?  If the latter, please show how you customized Emacs to
> use Noto Mono.
>
> Thanks.
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-29 10:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-10 15:53 bug#24918: 25.1; Fonts can make Emacs grind to a halt Klaus-Dieter Bauer
2016-11-10 16:20 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-11-10 17:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-10 22:05   ` Klaus-Dieter Bauer
2016-11-11  8:01     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]       ` <CANtbJLGuWhD8jUQt_KEz82kpuknemNR8u2G71fqTav2bfrR-1Q@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]         ` <83lgwc96nn.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]           ` <CANtbJLGpF-ME-rKFfTwpU28oJDcGr2ww2vJhPUx2zxqnreOXpQ@mail.gmail.com>
2016-11-28 15:47             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-29 10:29               ` Klaus-Dieter Bauer [this message]
2016-11-29 14:09                 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-11-29 17:47                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-29 22:42                   ` Klaus-Dieter Bauer
2016-11-30  3:42                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-30 10:01                       ` Klaus-Dieter Bauer
2016-11-30 15:00                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-01 10:21                           ` Klaus-Dieter Bauer
2016-12-01 17:31                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-29 23:17                 ` Alan Third
2016-11-30 15:09                   ` Eli Zaretskii

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