From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Chris Shea Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#32578: Remove "joke" from drag events documentation Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 23:49:45 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87h8jc2ue4.fsf@mbork.pl> <87sh2w5m56.fsf@yandex.com> <87ftyvjcfb.fsf@mbork.pl> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000084b6a50574db51f2" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1535860671 6143 195.159.176.226 (2 Sep 2018 03:57:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 03:57:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: m43cap@yandex.com, Marcin Borkowski , 32578@debbugs.gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 02 05:57:47 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fwJWE-0001Vg-S0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Sat, 01 Sep 2018 20:49:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:149960 Archived-At: --00000000000084b6a50574db51f2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Sep 1, 2018, 11:14 PM Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > It is pertinent that the "drag events" joke does not speak negatively > about any group of people. Rationally speaking, it is not offensive > to anyone. > > -- > Dr Richard Stallman > President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) > Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) > Oh boy. I never said anything about the joke being offensive. But I blame myself for not foreseeing this reaction, since this is the unwelcome I was talking about. This joke's presence in the official documentation communicates (accurately, as this whole exchange has demonstrated) that Emacs is created by people who think that a reference to drag is politically incorrect (and somehow rightfully so) and risqu=C3=A9 (= else why bring up Victorian prudishness). And that suggests a certain kind of attitude that not everyone has the patience to deal with. I can see that the line is doing what it intends, so I accept the wontfix. 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On Sat, Sep 1, 2018, 11:14 PM R= ichard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrot= e:
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents re= ading my email: please consider=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,=C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]<= br>
It is pertinent that the "drag events" joke does not speak negati= vely
about any group of people.=C2=A0 Rationally speaking, it is not offensive to anyone.

--
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)

Oh boy. I never said anything about the jok= e being offensive.

But I blame myself for not fore= seeing this reaction, since this is the unwelcome I was talking about. This= joke's presence in the official documentation communicates (accurately= , as this whole exchange has demonstrated) that Emacs is created by people = who think that a reference to drag is politically incorrect (and somehow ri= ghtfully so) and risqu=C3=A9 (else why bring up Victorian prudishness). And= that suggests a certain kind of attitude that not everyone has the patienc= e to deal with.

I can see that the line is doing w= hat it intends, so I accept the wontfix.

With the = bond that unites all living things,
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