From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Josh Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16155: 24.3.50; Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 15:13:54 -0800 Message-ID: References: <749544c4-49e7-462f-b64c-26725cf35a59@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1387322114 10436 80.91.229.3 (17 Dec 2013 23:15:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 23:15:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: gnu-emacs-bug@moderators.isc.org, Alan Mackenzie , rms@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 18 00:15:20 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Vt3rB-0001Lv-KE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 00:15:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36274 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vt3rB-0003XE-6k for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:82153 Archived-At: On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Drew Adams wrote: > And yet none of that data (however flakey or incomplete) was > considered in deciding to make this change in default behavior. > Whyzat? To be fair, this was debated at some length[0] and presumably decided a couple of months ago, well before that data became available. [0] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2013-10/msg00407.html