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From: Josh <josh@foxtail.org>
To: 12976@debbugs.gnu.org, jrm@ftfl.ca
Cc: 12976-done@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#12976: 24.2; C-c i is bound to custom function, but in a term buffer it gets bound to ido-insert-file
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 18:14:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANdFEAFYd-6Y=9sSuO1aube6X87TDk+tNgrJbbUoHc1H-+yi+g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1mwpspms1.fsf@gmail.com>

On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Leo Liu <sdl.web@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2012-11-24 11:43 +0800, Glenn Morris wrote:
>> Now `C-c i' is bound to insert-file. I guess this is because
>> term-escape-char = C-c, and term-raw-escape-map has Control-X-prefix as
>> parent keymap. I don't know what, if anything, to do about this.
>
> I consider this not a bug.

I certainly do.  From (info "(elisp) Key Binding Conventions") :

     * Don't define `C-c LETTER' as a key in Lisp programs.  Sequences
       consisting of `C-c' and a letter (either upper or lower case) are
       reserved for users; they are the *only* sequences reserved for
       users, so do not block them.

       Changing all the Emacs major modes to respect this convention was a
       lot of work; abandoning this convention would make that work go to
       waste, and inconvenience users.  Please comply with it.

> This is how term.el works because it has drastically different key
> bindings. Thus it gives the user C-c to invoke those critical commands
> on the C-x prefix, or you will be trapped in term-mode forever.

Several of the commands that term.el binds to C-c <letter> are
anything but critical, e.g. set-fill-column (C-c f) and
count-lines-page (C-c l).  Furthermore, as for being "trapped
forever," I see no reason for C-c in particular to be appropriated for
this purpose instead of some other control character that would leave
users' bindings intact, or even moving `ctl-x-map' from C-c to C-c
C-x, though this would be more effort to implement.

> User-defined commands are secondary in this scenario.

The passage I cited refers to "all the Emacs major modes".  Is there
any reason to believe that term.el should be exempt from adhering to
this convention?





  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-14  1:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-24  0:32 bug#12976: 24.2; C-c i is bound to custom function, but in a term buffer it gets bound to ido-insert-file Joseph Mingrone
2012-11-24  3:43 ` Glenn Morris
2013-07-12  1:52   ` Leo Liu
2013-07-14  1:14     ` Josh [this message]
2021-12-04  4:31       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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