From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Josh Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13567: 24.1; New remember back-end for storing data in multiple files Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 08:38:09 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87sj5m5wga.fsf@sc3d.org> <87li8ld1ad.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87y5c8f10j.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <878v468q39.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043894c514a89104db5972f1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1367077141 2204 80.91.229.3 (27 Apr 2013 15:39:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:39:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 13567@debbugs.gnu.org, Bastien To: Reuben Thomas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 27 17:39:05 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UW7DM-0006nd-MA for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:39:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36849 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UW7DM-0000iO-BP for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 11:39:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54185) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UW7DG-0000iD-2t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 11:39:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UW7DD-0005lj-D6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 11:38:58 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:42998) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UW7DD-0005lc-9v for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 11:38:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UW7DJ-0004QA-Sb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 11:39:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Josh Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:39:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13567 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 13567-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13567.136707712916972 (code B ref 13567); Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:39:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13567) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Apr 2013 15:38:49 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47107 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UW7D7-0004Pg-9A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 11:38:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wg0-f43.google.com ([74.125.82.43]:35708) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UW7D4-0004PV-TC for 13567@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 11:38:47 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wg0-f43.google.com with SMTP id c11so2671520wgh.34 for <13567@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 08:38:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=KRJgeRE58BfF4vOYzUyILxSXe9+dbXeq1oI9D7PraOU=; b=XoE66t7xMgmR5NqF/0lxLNj9gSMPOz3iqpmIeQOYMnGYCLJc1dIvYYrdKZ2hWwg7yp QrJP2LNjD9AObRp+WrVU1B+zPecWdfEgSltOT1p38L5sobP0TUcPBj9VrbVZ7rE7aGnj 6uStDKGnhaeL58ofoK6iLXBDUhQz9dEgjKaSE/1SV7etU5/7iVVEwvKwYJ3ws1xUlXdP 69opaODiCqCe0jBERnmTEnOfBJzTrhaWi9Emq4cVntqsKLf5aFTbSCX70iOT5Xh7S96Y aopiaU16sBXF+0l0xbDrZHRRCYHufKKPX69EI/DPD1jjt7FwkRQq/QuhsQFIS1IX3PAh bmJQ== X-Received: by 10.180.93.134 with SMTP id cu6mr9467695wib.8.1367077119366; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 08:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.194.139.46 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 08:38:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0msDdwWoGRXE7pq6NOtysAiQT_8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl741FP3ldW0HsPcMGuGgdVijaJXEnItSVzcIydAcnaW62SlJ83tolXXHsHhGrOk/K6fgLw X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:73778 Archived-At: --f46d043894c514a89104db5972f1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Reuben Thomas wrote: > On 26 April 2013 01:51, Glenn Morris wrote: > >> Shouldn't remember-data-directory default to >> (locate-user-emacs-file "remember")? >> > > No: these are ordinary text files, not Emacs configuration files, and > shouldn't be hidden away in a configuration directory. > The form Glenn suggested would place remember-data-directory under user-emacs-directory, which is documented to contain "additional per-user Emacs-specific files", not merely configuration files. It's better to make this the default location instead of cluttering up users' home directories, especially with non-hidden files, without their permission. See also bug 13870 for a recent precedent. --f46d043894c514a89104db5972f1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Reuben Thomas <rrt@sc3d.org= > wrote:
On 26 April 2013 01:51, Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org><= /span> wrote:
Shouldn't remember-data-directory default to
(locate-user-emacs-file "remember")?

No: these are ordinary text files, not Emacs configuration fi= les, and shouldn't be hidden away in a configuration directory.

The form Glenn suggested= would place remember-data-directory under user-emacs-directory, which is d= ocumented to contain "additional per-user Emacs-specific files", = not merely configuration files. =A0It's better to make this the default= location instead of cluttering up users' home directories, especially = with non-hidden files, without their permission. =A0See also bug 13870 for = a recent precedent.=A0

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