From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#10153: 24.0.91; behavior of TAB in text modes is different Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 22:59:53 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87d3ccr7f5.fsf@gnu.org> <87ty5n0xgo.fsf@gnu.org> <2AB87B84E3C84938A49039098CACAD95@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1322604079 8569 80.91.229.12 (29 Nov 2011 22:01:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 22:01:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , 10153@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 29 23:01:15 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RVVjl-0002eQ-8c for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 23:01:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52856 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RVVjk-0004Sr-GV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 17:01:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:40482) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RVVjf-0004LW-Fc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 17:01:11 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RVVjb-0004PE-A6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 17:01:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:44595) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RVVjb-0004PA-7F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 17:01:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RVVja-0002S9-E1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 17:01:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lennart Borgman Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 22:01:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10153 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 10153-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10153.13226040189355 (code B ref 10153); Tue, 29 Nov 2011 22:01:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 10153) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Nov 2011 22:00:18 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RVVis-0002Qq-0g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 17:00:18 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f44.google.com ([209.85.215.44]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RVVio-0002Qh-K7 for 10153@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 17:00:16 -0500 Original-Received: by lahj13 with SMTP id j13so1151840lah.3 for <10153@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 14:00:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MhaWY1PIfRI8rvBpTtwzC1AGPjQC/8P160Zir18xhks=; b=tbcuXT+Rw6jFuypLyryCu2w2tMuCJ73IOeiBvEVV+Rfh9dpaLss8EBoQGulSQ0g+Rp 4gfpziWcz3pOQl7CPhods8V/t6IGaluhoi898rOYBkMaqJGVhM8mtwZrgYp2+1zvJ7cs qDTSmwsff5xJNSidswjpa8p6kPSkAtiCL1y8Y= Original-Received: by 10.152.105.132 with SMTP id gm4mr32281538lab.39.1322604014151; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 14:00:14 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.152.38.198 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 13:59:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 17:01:02 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:54441 Archived-At: On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 22:56, Drew Adams wrote: >> > But my guess is that there will be many Emacs users who >> > will be confused by this, expecting TAB to indent >> > (if not to simply insert a TAB char). =C2=A0Not because >> > that's what TAB did in the past in Emacs, but because >> > that's more or less the behavior many newbies are used to, >> > from other text editors. >> >> Are not most users now used to web browsers (where TAB move to next >> field) > > Irrelevant here - we're talking about editing. You edit text fields in web pages so it is not totally irrelevant. TAB does not insert a tab character there. >> or programs like LibreOffice? In the latter TAB moves to next >> tab stop. > > Yes, that is what they will expect. =C2=A0IIUC, that is different from th= e cited new > indentation when the region is active. I thought the new behavior indented to the line above. If that is not the case I am misunderstanding. Sorry.