Thank you for the patch and continued focus on this. The following is the behavior I see on NS with the patch applied with target width 1700 and height 1000. These are results from clone-frame using text-pixels which I've included below without explicit pixelwise argument so it respects frame-resize-pixelwise. Note: frame-inhibit-implied-resize=(tab-bar-lines) is the default setting on NS: #if defined (USE_GTK) || defined (HAVE_NS) frame_inhibit_implied_resize = list1 (Qtab_bar_lines); frame-resize-pixelwise=nil frame-inhibit-implied-resize=nil text-width=1692 (Δ-8) text-height=984 (Δ-16) native-width=1727 (Δ-8) native-height 988 (Δ-16) Result: respects lines/cols as expected. frame-resize-pixelwise=t frame-inhibit-implied-resize=(tab-bar-lines) text-width=1700 (Δ0) text-height=1000 (Δ0) native-width=1735 (Δ0) native-height 1004 (Δ0) Result: Okay by accident, I think, only because tab-bar-lines parameter is nil during adjust_frame_height invocations? frame-resize-pixelwise=t frame-inhibit-implied-resize=nil text-width=1700 (Δ0) text-height=1000 (Δ0) native-width=1735 (Δ0) native-height 1004 (Δ0) Result: Okay but with frame-inhibit-implied-resize nil, I'd have expected rows/cols vs. pixelwise. frame-resize-pixelwise=t frame-inhibit-implied-resize=t text-width=1685 (Δ-15) text-height=1000 (Δ0) native-width=1720 (Δ-15) native-height 1004 (Δ0) Result: I think this case remains broken needing the adjustment from your first patch that you wanted to also account for fringes? My default GUI setup is frame-resize-pixelwise t frame-inhibit-implied-resize t as I expect many people have adopted these days. (defun my/clone-frame (&optional frame no-windows pixelwise) "Make a new frame with the same parameters and windows as FRAME. With a prefix arg NO-WINDOWS, don't clone the window configuration. When PIXELWISE is non-nil or if `frame-resize-pixelwise' is non-nil, and frame is not text-only, clone the originating frame's pixel size. FRAME defaults to the selected frame. The frame is created on the same terminal as FRAME. If the terminal is a text-only terminal then also select the new frame." (interactive (list (selected-frame) current-prefix-arg)) (let* ((frame (or frame (selected-frame))) (windows (unless no-windows (window-state-get (frame-root-window frame)))) (default-frame-alist (seq-remove (lambda (elem) (memq (car elem) frame-internal-parameters)) (frame-parameters frame))) (new-frame)) (when (and (display-graphic-p frame) (or pixelwise frame-resize-pixelwise)) (push (cons 'width (cons 'text-pixels (frame-text-width frame))) default-frame-alist) (push (cons 'height (cons 'text-pixels (frame-text-height frame))) default-frame-alist)) (setq new-frame (make-frame)) (when windows (window-state-put windows (frame-root-window new-frame) 'safe)) (unless (display-graphic-p frame) (select-frame new-frame)) new-frame)) On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 5:30 AM martin rudalics wrote: > > > That patch works to address make-frame's respect for text-pixels, at > least > > > on NS (the only platform I tested). > > > > I don't like it much and I have to further test the behavior with > fringes. > > Maybe I find better solution. > > I attach a patch that does away with a frame's inhibit_horizontal_resize > and inhibit_vertical_resize slots. Please test it. If it works for > you, I'll install it on master. > > martin