From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Noam Postavsky Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23746: 25.0.95; Doc fixes (grammar, typos, clarification) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 17:09:45 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87h9czoh5v.fsf@gmx.net> <83d1nnhfmu.fsf@gnu.org> <87d1nnofd2.fsf@gmx.net> <83bn37h6o0.fsf@gnu.org> <871t421e7w.fsf@gmx.net> <83vb1efd9v.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1465765825 26748 80.91.229.3 (12 Jun 2016 21:10:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 21:10:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stephen Berman , 23746@debbugs.gnu.org To: Ken Brown Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 12 23:10:16 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bCCe7-0003jE-0o for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Whereas, "your Lisp >>>> program may wish to tell the process" is correct. >>> >>> >>> That's one argument for this change; another is the statistical one >>> based on the existing Emacs documentation: >>> >>> steve@rosalinde:/data/steve/git/emacs> grep -r " wish to " doc/ | wc -l >>> 196 >>> steve@rosalinde:/data/steve/git/emacs> grep -r " wish [a-z]*ing " doc/ >>> doc/lispref/processes.texi:may wish telling the process the dimensions >>> >>> Eli, does this persuade you to accept this change too? >> >> >> Sorry, no. There's nothing wrong in the original wording in this >> case. I'm sorry, but you're simply wrong on this. The original wording is grammatically incorrect, please defer to people with more knowledge of English, as I'm sure anyone would defer to you on a question regarding Emacs' display engine. > > > As a native speaker of English, I agree with Noam on this. "may wish > telling" sounds wrong. > > Ken