From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Noam Postavsky Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#26102: movemail can't connect mail server Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 16:03:18 -0400 Message-ID: References: <76a96737-f780-00a2-9fd4-70c0e95f0101@cs.ucla.edu> <8360ja1ldi.fsf@gnu.org> <834lyu1jws.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1489608254 25989 195.159.176.226 (15 Mar 2017 20:04:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 20:04:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Paul Eggert , 26102@debbugs.gnu.org, hengaini2055@qq.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 15 21:04:08 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1coF9S-0005va-6P for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Wed, 15 Mar 2017 13:03:18 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.157.80.172 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 13:03:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <834lyu1jws.fsf@gnu.org> X-Google-Sender-Auth: w3oeLFXomnKNeFPwCkoHjHVYG8k X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:130624 Archived-At: On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 2:20 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> I assume it means stop distributing our own partial movemail, and >> require people who want to use Emacs for mail in this way to install the >> superior version from GNU Mailutils. I support this proposal. I think it >> is good general practice to reduce the number of things that need to be >> maintained in Emacs. > > We already find movemail from Mailutils, if installed, before we find > our own. And our movemail requires zero maintenance. In this > situation, removing our version means just removing features, no more, > no less. I'm against removing features for no good reason. Currently we release Emacs with a movemail implementation lacking the usual features. This may confuse users, like the OP. Is avoiding this confusion a good enough reason?