From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Noam Postavsky Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#358: dabbrev-abbrev-char-regexp Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2017 16:07:27 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1212586214.22521.1256711185@webmail.messagingengine.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1490299703 32634 195.159.176.226 (23 Mar 2017 20:08:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2017 20:08:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 358@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 23 21:08:15 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cr91l-0006m7-8S for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2017 21:08:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58359 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cr91o-0007Wy-1e for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=2TZkDzcvBo4LyBi/33EKvsLvlDu6LkRvADtacsqtYsE=; b=AJu067lMmrpLfdAOIMq1SnXNZlO1I5a5VWamZbVswrZ7GOsU6BJTvUJ98dk/5zGHwB 3kvTVscoUo/4Apl8vzHy9ySp8Oo9BE2m5hUWE4b1OriMGqhGkN+d9nqK3LF8puLOROU7 2BHc8aWVaP87asAkj6frfe8pmnUGweRyc/wpW/JsK7hJ4/Y2U8XABwoL05CafgfOwzx9 LL/GB4lRwMIdEQb+iaCdOsviVgoRJJbO16f90NSWLvW348EwR5MNxbf9UxACq37bUM2i 9wFG6H7cU1BzKy9ivLURX53/6ABW9+skgM5El2uFK/H1a8Iq6UbAwW+k/prJsIT3Q6bn aTLQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AFeK/H3HwocM58MipF2V5fVQsevTuPbvZQHfZRG6cTLTgOEybDKhwDCxQdMsA4nmzlj6a+vmot4glbjQzTUjMw== X-Received: by 10.157.52.253 with SMTP id t58mr2552469otd.267.1490299647987; Thu, 23 Mar 2017 13:07:27 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.157.80.172 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Mar 2017 13:07:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Google-Sender-Auth: w3nuOgIqSGpu-d_4UNqL8u_xgN4 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:130852 Archived-At: On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Drew Adams wrote: >> +For instance, if you are programming in Lisp, `yes-or-no-p' is a >> +symbol, while `yes', `or', `no' and `p' are considered words. > > This text (same as before) is a bit misleading. It makes it sound > like `yes', `or', `no', and `p' are considered words but not symbols. > They are also considered symbols. Each of their characters has word > syntax, but in Lisp those names name symbols. > > It is better not to talk about Lisp symbols at all here, I think. > This is about the syntax categories symbol and word. It is not > about which names can be used for Lisp symbols. (And there is > no such thing as a Lisp "word".) The text is using "symbol" as a shorthand for "text which `forward-symbol' would move over" or "sequence of characters with word or symbol constituent syntax", and "word" as short for "text which `forward-word' would move over" or "sequence of characters with word constituent syntax". I think it's reasonably clear from context (as you say, there is no such thing as a Lisp "word" in any other sense), but I have no problem replacing it with something less ambiguous if you can come up with something that's not too long.