From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Charles Rendleman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13486: 24.2.92: large X-selections: timed out waiting for property notify event Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 16:55:34 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20729.64260.275157.943490@gnu.org> <87sj5xzpyd.fsf@gnu.org> <87mww55gfd.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec517c690a4af3e04d3ab4963 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1358632584 13311 80.91.229.3 (19 Jan 2013 21:56:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 21:56:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , 13486@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 19 22:56:41 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TwgOw-0000yn-W4 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 22:56:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44600 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TwgOf-0005lQ-Iz for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 16:56:17 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:55896) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TwgOa-0005kQ-Lz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 16:56:15 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TwgOW-0007oM-Dw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 16:56:12 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:35167) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TwgOW-0007oI-AQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 16:56:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TwgPO-00020u-AS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 16:57:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Charles Rendleman Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 21:57:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13486 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 13486-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13486.13586325967705 (code B ref 13486); Sat, 19 Jan 2013 21:57:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13486) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jan 2013 21:56:36 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40631 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TwgOx-00020D-DR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 16:56:36 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ia0-f173.google.com ([209.85.210.173]:57682) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TwgOu-000205-4d for 13486@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 16:56:33 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-ia0-f173.google.com with SMTP id l29so2128564iag.18 for <13486@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 13:55:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=lvAZXLVna9OMVZaYaNw1eL40DPWJZUxqJ7kCnLMJH6c=; b=dtex/+KS3pMdr0Tpua/xhi3Q/EidCM+J5Kc4gVD9Sb7P2VyyZD2ZemMsDLJLsIvVmK jgsEw17upWUu7ep6no5Xc/1UxL7wBhsfnFsnpl0xtS0/85yqJer+kjq1RaU91ZNv+uJq 5ig/e9U4vEiVEmFovvwxgTrk2g33mWhqBycNHM9PJJgg5H1s//KAzKiwYLzujc0q4L3r PJr3i9Jp+z9wEUjIzd+LTvjs3/ec/shT3Xoei9eSpUORKWIWMTcbi98sqEV7bhU3QO50 LfaSGfK9t56Se48t9FQKfvkELdVfEJB5KxQAs3Mr5xyIVj0T/4qWZvCkL/d2WHum8mQS V06A== X-Received: by 10.43.124.130 with SMTP id go2mr9209019icc.8.1358632535240; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 13:55:35 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.64.70.168 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 13:55:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:70054 Archived-At: --bcaec517c690a4af3e04d3ab4963 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 1) This is a regression since Emacs-23.4. That is, large selections work in emacs prior to emacs 24 2) I've been able to reproduce in a more standard x environment the report-emacs-bug report is essentially the same except for: .... In GNU Emacs 24.2.92.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.22.1) of 2013-01-10 on drdws0066.nyc.desres.deshaw.com Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.70101000 System Description: CentOS release 5.7 (Final) .... On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> http://www.straightrunning.com/XmingNotes/, a packaging of 'mainly > >> from the X.org source code with patches applied'. > > Ah, so you are running Emacs through a remote X connection. That is the > > reason for the slowdown: the Emacs binary needs to transfer the X > > primary selection to the server over the network. > > IIUC in his example, only the ownership of the selection needs to be > transferred, not the selection itself, so the size of the selection > shouldn't matter. > Unless he has some extra software (like some clipboard applets) that > systematically keeps takes a copy of those things, tho I don't remember > hearing of a case where the PRIMARY was (mis)handled this way (contrary > to the CLIPBOARD selection, where there've been many such mishandling > by naive applets). > > > Stefan > --bcaec517c690a4af3e04d3ab4963 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
1) This is a regression since Emacs-23.4.=A0 That is,= large selections work in emacs prior to emacs 24
2) I've bee= n able to reproduce in a more standard x environment the report-emacs-bug r= eport is essentially the same except for:
....
In GNU Emacs 24.2.92.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ = Version 2.22.1)
=A0of 2013-01-10 on drdws0066.nyc.desres.deshaw.com
Windowing system dist= ributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.70101000
System Description:=A0CentOS release 5.7 (Final)
....


On Sat, Jan 19, 2013= at 12:19 PM, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
>> http://www.straight= running.com/XmingNotes/, a packaging of 'mainly
>> from the X.org source code with patches applied'.
> Ah, so you are running Emacs through a remote X connection. =A0That is= the
> reason for the slowdown: the Emacs binary needs to transfer the X
> primary selection to the server over the network.

IIUC in his example, only the ownership of the selection needs to be<= br> transferred, not the selection itself, so the size of the selection
shouldn't matter.
Unless he has some extra software (like some clipboard applets) that
systematically keeps takes a copy of those things, tho I don't remember=
hearing of a case where the PRIMARY was (mis)handled this way (contrary
to the CLIPBOARD selection, where there've been many such mishandling by naive applets).


=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Stefan

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