From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Barzilay Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24953: 25.1; Possible inefficiency in UTF-8 Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 14:59:58 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83vavnflg9.fsf@gnu.org> <83eg2bfc51.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1479326850 30277 195.159.176.226 (16 Nov 2016 20:07:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 20:07:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 24953@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 16 21:07:23 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c76UM-0006Zi-SU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2016 21:07:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54561 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c76UP-0005Va-Sz for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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[...] >> > You shouldn't need to do this, not in Emacs 25 anyway. >> >> Is it a good idea to use it on linux? > > Yes. (And it should be the default on GNU/Linux, at least on most of > its flavors.) I built and installed 25.1, and it looks like the default is also English. (At least according to `current-language-environment'.) Is that a bug then? >> (I originally thought that all it gets me is a default encoding for >> non-ascii files...) > > You could customize just that, then. Using `prefer-coding-system'? Or something else? > And I don't really understand why that is needed, either, unless you > want the files you create to be automatically in UTF-8. Doesn't that make sense if I almost always edit source code for languages that use utf-8 to read sources? -- ((x=>x(x))(x=>x(x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life!