From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Barzilay Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24953: 25.1; Possible inefficiency in UTF-8 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2016 17:32:07 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83vavnflg9.fsf@gnu.org> <83eg2bfc51.fsf@gnu.org> <83bmxffaev.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1479681196 950 195.159.176.226 (20 Nov 2016 22:33:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2016 22:33:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 24953@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 20 23:33:11 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c8afb-0007Ix-OO for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2016 23:33:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46438 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c8aff-0005p5-7a for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Or something else? > > Using setq-default. Sorry for being thick, but which variable? >> > And I don't really understand why that is needed, either, unless >> > you want the files you create to be automatically in UTF-8. >> >> Doesn't that make sense if I almost always edit source code for >> languages that use utf-8 to read sources? > > Languages that use utf-8 should already encode in utf-8 by default. > Which ones don't? I can't reproduce any such problems so perhaps whatever made me add it is no longer a problem... However, since I removed the UTF-8 language setting on Windows I had one case which wasn't working right: I ran some `git show ...` to look at a past change in a (utf-8 encoded) source file; I ran it with `shell-command` and the resulting text that popped up had some junk next to some non-ascii characters. I'm pretty sure that I didn't have such an issue with the setting on. If this is not expected, I can try to get reproducible instructions. -- ((x=>x(x))(x=>x(x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life!