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Thu, 20 Apr 2023 11:53:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87a5z2ctpo.fsf@gmail.com> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:260358 Archived-At: On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 7:08=E2=80=AFPM Robert Pluim wro= te: > "We" may not know that, but by the principle of not giving me things *I* > didn=CA=BCt ask for, *I* don=CA=BCt want ':core' packages being automatic= ally > upgraded, unless I either > > 1. explicitly ask for such an upgrade > 2. have myself somehow installed a newer version already, in which case > it=CA=BCs no longer a ':core' package > > I=CA=BCve not checked, but does what=CA=BCs currently in emacs-29 not giv= e us at > least [1]? Not when package dependencies are involved. If you weren't aware, in Emacs 26 (including 29), if you explicitly ask to install package A and it depends on :core package B, which you didn't ask to install, package B gets upgraded. In another data point, the last two patches I proposed to package-install are similar and only extend the "upgrade-even-if-:core" behaviour to two packages that weren't core are now :core. Those two packages are Eglot and Use-Package. The rationale I used to develop these patches was to protect users like you (inasmuch as Emacs 28 already protects you) _and_ to protect Eglot users. I am of course presuming that you aren't/weren't also an Eglot user, otherwise you would have been hit by these package upgrades related to dependencies in Emacs 28 and would have noticed them. Jo=C3=A3o