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Tue, 16 Jan 2024 02:34:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:278328 Archived-At: On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 2:35=E2=80=AFAM Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > Basically, the biggest weakness of Stefan M's solution is the biggest > > strength of Jo=C3=A3o's and vice versa: "backwards-compatibility" (if w= e can > > call it that) vs "clean taxonomy". > > While a fresh new taxonomy could definitely be cleaner, seeing how it > can be designed with 40 years of hindsight, I believe "clean taxonomy" > is an oxymoron. "clean taxonomy" is most definitely a oxymoron :-) But is this really a "taxonomy"? I see no real categorization or classification. I just see a many-to-one mapping of major modes to languages. I don't see any conceptual wrinkles, can you point to one? Can you point to some concrete major modes inheriting from prog-mode where it's not easy to give a reasonable answer to the question: what language is this major mode for? I don't think it's a problem if we have to choose between "JS" and "JavaScript". Just pick one, and adapt to external systems if needed at the boundaries.