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Sat, 06 Jan 2024 06:36:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:277465 Archived-At: On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 4:08=E2=80=AFAM Stefan Monnier wrote: > Other example: keys as they go through `keyboard-coding-system`, > `input-decode-map`, `function-key-map`, `key-translation-map`. Here we > decided to keep the type the same. As much as I want to believe these arguments for the conceptual solidity of this "extra-parents" idea, I still think this is burdensome. As a data point, I've had a fair number of Eglot users confused about single simple inheritance as it stands. > The same happens with Debian package names and Debian package features: > package `emacs` implicitly provides the feature `emacs`. [I don't find this model simple either, not as a casual Debian user. But at least there they have clear separate concepts of "package" and "feature", which seems to hint at my "mode family" or "file type" idea] > I'm not sure which modes might be affected (beside Eglot, YASnippet, > and CEDET). I presume many others outside of Emacs are, since > `derived-mode-p` is used very often out there. Personally, I think if Eglot, YASnippet and CEDET are all we actually know about, I think it's very simple to fix 2 out of three (even _without_ the "base mode"). And the 3 out of 3 I _think_ I can fix once someone points me to what exactly it should do. Jo=C3=A3o