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From: "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 56407@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#56407: 29.0.50; desktop.el shouldn't be saving/restoring eglot--managed-mode, which is not for interactive use
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2022 14:19:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALDnm52P9GEczqraXRMfxpO-uOx+sG5_5HPgG53_u-nMG8J=1A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83h73u75bi.fsf@gnu.org>

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On Wed, Jul 6, 2022 at 2:12 PM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:

> > From: João Távora <joaotavora@gmail.com>
> > Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2022 13:59:51 +0100
> > Cc: 56407@debbugs.gnu.org
> >
> >  That's okay: it's desktop.el's job to know about some implementation
> >  details.  Just look at how much it knows about what the various modes
> >  and variables do in Emacs.
> >
> > Wait, you're saying it's "okay" to have to do a commit to Emacs's repo
> > everytime someone makes a third-party package that has a minor mode
> > that needs special handling?  Or everytime someone changes the name
> > or shape of a minor mode?
>
> eglot is not a third-party package.  We intended to add it to core, I
> think?
>

Indeed we do.  But it's not yet, because I've been so very busy.

 But if what I suggest isn't to your liking, you can always tell users

> to customize desktop-minor-mode-table by themselves.  Or do what you
> didn't want to do: cause desktop.el to be autoloaded by eglot.
>

Yes, those are alternatives. But not as good.


> > But we do have that mechanism. It's called symbol properties and it's a
> nice
> > feature of lisp. So let's use it, please.
>
> If you insist.  But then don't come back crying when this is broken by
> some change in desktop.el that the "loosely coupled packages" didn't
> pick up.
>

Thanks. I can't vouch for my future emotions, but I also can't see how
this mechanism, which I've used and seen used so often, could fail
in such ways.

I'll prepare a patch.

João

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Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-05 19:34 bug#56407: 29.0.50; desktop.el shouldn't be saving/restoring eglot--managed-mode, which is not for interactive use João Távora
2022-07-05 19:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-05 19:53   ` João Távora
2022-07-06  2:29     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-06  8:12       ` João Távora
2022-07-06 11:09         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-06 11:30           ` João Távora
2022-07-06 11:37             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-07-06 12:48             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-06 12:59               ` João Távora
2022-07-06 13:12                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-06 13:19                   ` João Távora [this message]
2022-07-06 13:23                     ` João Távora
2022-07-06 13:39                       ` Stefan Kangas
2022-07-06 13:47                         ` João Távora
2022-07-06 13:52                           ` Stefan Kangas
2022-07-06 13:52                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-07-06 13:59                             ` João Távora
2022-07-05 22:52   ` João Távora
2022-07-06  2:34     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-06  8:27       ` João Távora
2022-07-05 19:41 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-07-05 19:56   ` João Távora

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