On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 11:43 PM João Távora <joaotavora@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 11:39 PM Okamsn <okamsn@protonmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 12/7/21 09:23, João Távora wrote:
>> > Not sure about the eval-when-compile for require.  It was my
>> > expression that require is always "when compile".
>> >
>> > I've unfortunately been a little away from Emacs lately.
>> >
>> > João
>>
>> My understanding is that `eval-when-compile` is used to make sure that
>> macro definitions are available during compilation and that the
>> libraries are not loaded when `texinfo.el` is loaded.  The macros in the
>> patch are `rx`, `cl-loop`, and `flymake-log`.
>>
>
> require is always `eval-and-compile` (sorry if I misled you earlier).
> It's OK to use `eval-when-compile` when needing `cl-loop` from `cl-lib`
> if _all_ you need form `cl-lib` is indeed macros.
>
> But for flymake, you need the actual runtime things too, right? So
> I think plain require is better and simpler
>

Hmmm, on second thought, it you're planning on relying on
autoloads for ultimate loading lazyness.... Hmm, maybe
you're right...

João