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a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wasbvWBWO2grY3nC055ejnxit4iQd7exyc2WJl/kTd4=; b=t7mayiWtk63+a3QNKWP7Jek9g29BJg9pEDBK0NexsowfKxFDydPLAbAQhI82v2q6L+ M2R7HTP0JgRk+GEL3OzKnw9UDKz/hOdlBzgskWbPT9oMz2lfbamgCLmuAkAEWA0cpwp/ ppucFDCN9Jty7+fqFtjq6ehKLySBUqqwT3KHxMfxFu5feFJZdqeza8RPFep2qLh4B3Gj xNgqlG+29BW2LZtRjEGCfHAnQNXs3Dm9TV+0BbolBMrGuQjHm2+mCmwq8VqJJVFTbRTy /Lkg2canwtGy8CX0ZHqzJHxvIFCcbgZFNAIR7AdW3ylPK7MBE+DWGvMAIaYtj78wSutN mcuA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533pygxmitYVWf41LIqQrVJi6Sf0oatnyjmP+39+2bwg8IY7FgSe t3g3ypbKLRQE5WuK/IuzzIhGfFFnQsjpd7rlhZ8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyGa6OGx4o37XNmeNaAPinIjwzf0zToDfC2+MIX6hFdTSAvgzOHtDIk5z0taZXkGeUheqP9282wW/SwbZ05ZAM= X-Received: by 2002:a63:2cce:: with SMTP id s197mr3618043pgs.45.1633197831796; Sat, 02 Oct 2021 11:03:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83v92f9um9.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:216188 Archived-At: On Sat, Oct 2, 2021 at 6:58 PM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > We are talking at cross-purposes. You are talking about the > underlying mechanism; I'm talking about the user's experience. From > the UX POV, it is unexpected to be unable to get help about a > symbol-like thing the user sees in the buffer. I'm taking both things into consideration. Does that mean that your answer to my questionnaire is 'a.' or "mostly" 'a.'? a. "I wonder what that that 's-thingy' over there is/means or what documentation there is for it.?" I'm assuming that since you wrote "sees in the buffer". Jo=C3=A3o PS: Much better terminology "symbol-like thing" :-)