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Thu, 02 Nov 2017 10:03:38 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.12.145.228 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Nov 2017 10:03:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87o9orulln.fsf@gmail.com> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:139367 Archived-At: --001a114fbc8c2eb5f2055d02f8da Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ping. This was very close to wrapping up and so I wonder if you had a chance to look at the patches... I hope my rant isn't putting you off, because it's just that, an opinion, a data point. I did fix all the parts according to your comments, I believe. It's only the last patch with the doc changes that changed significantly since the last time you looked. Jo=C3=A3o On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 8:19 PM, Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora wrote: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> From: joaotavora@gmail.com (Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora) > >> Cc: dgutov@yandex.ru, 28814@debbugs.gnu.org > >> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 00:59:28 +0100 > >> > >> - In node "Looking up identifiers" there are is a repeated explanation > >> of what motivates a *xref* buffer (lines 1831 and 1863). I think its > >> clearer if this only happens once, so I merged the two. > > > > People who use the manual as a reference seldom read the entire node. > > Instead, they read the description of the single subject they were > > I think nodes are read from top to bottom, especially if they are short, > and this is a good thing. It's a small miracle the manual is so good > since it is a giant patchwork of many different writers. Nevertheless > it suffers from inconsistent style. I think repetition is very often a > symptom of bad style. And I think style isn't some abstract and > innocuous thing, it's a carrier for content and carries content in > itself. And I think this even more of prose than of code. > > So here ends my minirant :-) and I hope I fixed everything in these > patches. > > Jo=C3=A3o > > --=20 Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora --001a114fbc8c2eb5f2055d02f8da Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ping. This was very close to wrapping up and so I wonder i= f you=C2=A0
had a chance to look at the patches...

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I hope my rant isn't putting you off, because it's just t= hat, an=C2=A0
opinion, a data point. I did fix all the parts acco= rding to your comments,=C2=A0
I believe.
It's only the last patch with the doc changes that changed = significantly=C2=A0
since the last time you looked.
Jo=C3=A3o


On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 8:19 PM, Jo=C3= =A3o T=C3=A1vora <joaotavora@gmail.com> wrote:
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: joaotavora@gmail.com= (Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora)
>> Cc: dgutov@yandex.ru,=C2= =A0 28814@debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 00:59:28 +0100
>>
>> - In node "Looking up identifiers" there are is a repeat= ed explanation
>> of what motivates a *xref* buffer (lines 1831 and 1863). I think i= ts
>> clearer if this only happens once, so I merged the two.
>
> People who use the manual as a reference seldom read the entire node.<= br> > Instead, they read the description of the single subject they were

I think nodes are read from top to bottom, especially if they are sh= ort,
and this is a good thing.=C2=A0 It's a small miracle the manual is so g= ood
since it is a giant patchwork of many different writers.=C2=A0 Nevertheless=
it suffers from inconsistent style.=C2=A0 I think repetition is very often = a
symptom of bad style.=C2=A0 And I think style isn't some abstract and innocuous thing, it's a carrier for content and carries content in
itself.=C2=A0 And I think this even more of prose than of code.

So here ends my minirant :-) and I hope I fixed everything in these
patches.

Jo=C3=A3o




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