From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_?= =?UTF-8?Q?T=C3=A1vora?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#59082: 28.2; Undocumented `intern-soft` feature with shorthands symbols Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 06:39:04 +0000 Message-ID: References: <875yfresq9.fsf@posteo.net> <831qq8ny2m.fsf@gnu.org> <87leog4018.fsf@posteo.net> <83o7tcm7ji.fsf@gnu.org> <83mt8wm5ai.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000001368f105ed687bb5" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4243"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: thievol@posteo.net, eliz@gnu.org, 59082@debbugs.gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 15 00:47:20 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oujAe-0000vI-LC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2022 00:47:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ouiqd-0003Mt-Vb; Mon, 14 Nov 2022 18:26:40 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ouihe-0007s4-Ft for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2022 18:17:24 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ouT7W-0007pT-H0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2022 01:39:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ouT7W-0008AN-7W for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2022 01:39:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_?= =?UTF-8?Q?T=C3=A1vora?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 06:39:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 59082 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 59082-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B59082.166840789131325 (code B ref 59082); Mon, 14 Nov 2022 06:39:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 59082) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Nov 2022 06:38:11 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48818 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ouT6h-00089B-3C for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2022 01:38:11 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-oi1-f178.google.com ([209.85.167.178]:45895) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ouT6c-00088e-DM for 59082@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2022 01:38:10 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-oi1-f178.google.com with SMTP id t62so10484919oib.12 for <59082@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2022 22:38:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=A8AvTzmZFlo/tX+weuHxtfKBDJqxgtjgjoGXZf29hwk=; b=VAgmBvRyfSoPu3mA6JyZrUgPjAXi4epwlLmeoMS4NFL2C6pLIBcM7PHUWAE9DQXDFE TPNpNf7TXwnwM7U31r5MvElhlw3nCXBagoS7hk2kobIcTkYiyPdVSs2Y3ztCwV6paYUN /dM0a6nkfP7zom8yvCbLn2seDR1WdgagZSzK6aBO1nOF0GtzDHq1z924afib+vqH17cH clbFY0X6HbHwGMZ5s6neIyXiymy7IAu7svVVK2G4wxDU2+WI/DxppkgigpDohDFzT996 vDXjSUwBwH11rWZ/JTuTmtIx7+kB0ue277Qj2sNy7mGmEDG/PYb6FJNMHLm3LhI8fCid +1Ew== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=A8AvTzmZFlo/tX+weuHxtfKBDJqxgtjgjoGXZf29hwk=; b=QqH9MXUrI0Ydgd1kNeGLqLz2T3DdIgc9t74DofmFET8DolKnJEo6FBLIeY1PayXetv 9Uq9Xy2pp15jLUOXPfEVfPY+hlDK3F9wzGdIpvejSNSOPMqGLdroNOCukGhNSreTiAvr rcx/NCB6YdXAKnduHVzzILMP+hkROZIAfz2vstEY0WlRjHOHOji2QRnVB964eKSZ9G0M juRgLFioGlmrDcoNh3lLkM17gNn46/dphy+Pd0ITjpC0U28Fjq35ujZrBG+uaPiZtUdm ITzH7LYp6MFuGmBrK1peV7w0GX9uxHPa1uu4+FO2cshh5eceGlGEDxSJzUoAqcs6N+3+ Lovg== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5pl0eX6aY9jSmA2dMcN/UfVcXTj6Ii1Zo8b4IP/0oMLtPfskXxtB OEPez9hc2z1ynXUruOAWn7CzYl546Cjaei7DRWE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf4NXDEdx1h9xg9pj4U4DsIB2HKzItE49Jqbx8ScV1MHJuGZ/XsI6MBjOz6MbgNVNTN3F3wscUrYfD216aanvtY= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:13c4:b0:35a:7e8d:8ad6 with SMTP id d4-20020a05680813c400b0035a7e8d8ad6mr5085126oiw.171.1668407880803; Sun, 13 Nov 2022 22:38:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:247841 Archived-At: --0000000000001368f105ed687bb5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 3:13 AM Richard Stallman wrote: > Maybe we need a construct to use in doc strings > that requests shorthands processing on a part of the doc string. > This would have to happen at read time, when the doc string is read, > so that the proper shorthands are in effect there. Correct, but this "read time" is "docstring read time", which I don't think is technically the same as "Lisp read time". And I also agree that maybe we don't "need" this urgently, for s.el or at all. But it would be a nice-to-have, especially if it's easy to implement. Jo=C3=A3o --0000000000001368f105ed687bb5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 3:13 AM Richard Stallman <= rms@gnu.org> wrote:

> Maybe= we need a construct to use in doc strings
> that requests shorthands= processing on a part of the doc string.
> This would have to happen = at read time, when the doc string is read,
> so that the p= roper shorthands are in effect there.

Correct, but= this "read time" is "docstring read time", which I don= 't think
is technically the same as "Lisp read tim= e".

And I also agree that maybe we don't = "need" this urgently, for s.el
or at all. But it would = be a nice-to-have, especially if it's easy to
implement.

Jo=C3=A3o
--0000000000001368f105ed687bb5--