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From: "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>
To: Thierry Volpiatto <thievol@posteo.net>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, 59082@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#59082: 28.2; Undocumented `intern-soft` feature with shorthands symbols
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2022 16:47:54 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALDnm50gfiUwwp9t-sRpcU4gHFWLHt8Btp=aSGKLpR5Q6mQjsQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALDnm50gyBWkMn+Or7DcJkROGVrVt7nJ9=neA1aHC41dv-iYEw@mail.gmail.com>

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We can/should of course document the decision that they aren't supported in
rubbed in the manual though (if we make that decision)...

João

On Sat, Nov 12, 2022, 16:46 João Távora <joaotavora@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hmm, not sure we should be using shorthands in docstrings, which aren't
> read by the Lisp reader, but by something else... This is what is at stake,
> right?
>
> Maybe if good reasonable semantics can be found, but not sure.
>
> On Sat, Nov 12, 2022, 16:20 Thierry Volpiatto <thievol@posteo.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> João Távora <joaotavora@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> > This is a feature of Lisp in general and the correct way to go from
>> > strings to symbols.
>>
>> Great, thanks to confirm.
>>
>> > Curiously, I was pleasantly surprised that much code of key symbol
>> > processing facilities was already using this indirection and
>> > shorthands automatically worked in those facilities because of that.
>>
>> `substitute-command-keys` at least doesn't handle this.
>>
>> Say you have the file foo.el with
>> `read-symbol-shorthands` == (("f-" . "foo-")) and containing definitions
>> like `f-dothis`, `f-dothat` etc... and a var `f-help-string` containing
>> string like
>> "\<f-map>\[f-dothis]: Description", if you define a function `f-help`
>> containing (substitute-command-keys f-help-string) it will fail
>> complaining `f-dothis` is void.
>>
>> --
>> Thierry
>>
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-12 16:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-06 20:16 bug#59082: 28.2; Undocumented `intern-soft` feature with shorthands symbols Thierry Volpiatto
2022-11-12 12:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-12 13:22   ` João Távora
2022-11-12 16:06     ` Thierry Volpiatto
2022-11-12 16:46       ` João Távora
2022-11-12 16:47         ` João Távora [this message]
2022-11-12 17:01         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-12 17:18           ` João Távora
2022-11-12 17:49             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-12 18:14               ` João Távora
2022-11-14  3:13                 ` Richard Stallman
2022-11-14  6:39                   ` João Távora
2022-11-14 13:11                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-14 13:38                       ` João Távora
2022-11-14 13:05                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-14 13:36                     ` João Távora
2022-11-14 13:56                       ` Eli Zaretskii

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