From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Gavin Smith Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24825: [help-texinfo] "help" content Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 17:00:37 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20161017182623.GC2852@bhayya.baalamithra> <83shrdpzni.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1477846901 9811 195.159.176.226 (30 Oct 2016 17:01:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 17:01:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 24825@debbugs.gnu.org, madhou , "help-texinfo@gnu.org" To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 30 18:01:37 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c0tTt-0007jt-GQ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2016 18:01:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59380 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c0tTw-0003Wa-9C for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=5fNQmnHWujsXTlClW/SKaT3r4a5d9UJGsAenTGGIldA=; b=kFJ9PKYXvjGIiQFrzSHP0X8/SJn9nA9v02dSwpqScUuEb8gx0fRic14pBZ6XiFfCWW 9slfgosdijTwrwnYMwl6nc/sLuSIXjbI5v6iNik2CHdXFga4U4lwpJhT6nl+K9CZk3pH UnXCNeUi+ADwu3nAqsXAepi2IywcG8IuT/4JcflcfgXMJHnE0woDKR09xM8dkUM1k14M cATODake8B1KU6P0yoDVaOwndLHSWBCwZWRshR8zECp69mTsGh9ttS6PVA4ienyhqDIT DFKw/jEZrtYKZNWO4hsbzYDmpNKd+/feCRT00ZANivtULQvQBY1XUS8zT5KnNYGS0HGI eIww== X-Gm-Message-State: ABUngvdZHTQmLcyKilnKBh4W5hYGd71KXAgOPsxMU2RBp+2P7Uh5OpthU2+zPVvJOKx6Y7bH+ws4nVOUthwggA== X-Received: by 10.13.199.135 with SMTP id j129mr19337528ywd.247.1477846838102; Sun, 30 Oct 2016 10:00:38 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.37.173.3 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Oct 2016 10:00:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83shrdpzni.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:125155 Archived-At: On 30 October 2016 at 16:30, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > There's a problem here: the '?' key still does in Emacs what the > manual says it should. So this is a discrepancy between the Emacs > Info reader and the stand-alone Info reader, and I'm not sure Emacs > should be the one which changes. I was asking for the documentation to be changed to mention that you can press H in the stand-alone info reader, not for what emacs does to be changed. > Why was '?' in the stand-alone reader bound to search-backward? It > makes little sense to me, at least when in the default Emacs mode. (I > notice that '?' has the same binding in the vi mode, perhaps someone > wanted to have the cake and eat it, too?) Because "H" is available for the help window and ? searches back in both vi and less, and users may be used to using the latter to read man pages and using / and ? to search through a manual. / also searches forward so it is consistent for ? to search backward.