From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rustom Mody Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#11103: 24.0.94; (error "Can't activate input method `dev-aiba'") Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 20:00:56 +0530 Message-ID: References: <81bonhlvhv.fsf@gmail.com> <0eehsdkcb1.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <80bone3qq3.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <811uo9jj63.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f234bed1d36d904bc8acebf X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1333204329 23419 80.91.229.3 (31 Mar 2012 14:32:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:32:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 11103@debbugs.gnu.org To: Jambunathan K Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 31 16:32:08 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SDzLY-0000jr-C2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 16:32:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55842 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SDzLX-0001aQ-G8 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:32:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59330) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SDzLT-0001ZX-L7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:32:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SDzLR-0006Qi-EV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:31:59 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:36357) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SDzLR-0006QX-7m for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:31:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDzLV-0005Nu-MQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:32:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Rustom Mody Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:32:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11103 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 11103-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11103.133320427920646 (code B ref 11103); Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:32:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 11103) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Mar 2012 14:31:19 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32895 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDzKo-0005Mw-4d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:31:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-iy0-f172.google.com ([209.85.210.172]:51838) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDzKY-0005MS-7C for 11103@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:31:16 -0400 Original-Received: by iazz13 with SMTP id z13so2064550iaz.3 for <11103@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 07:30:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=lQ+nqt00Gej9Fa/h2QeseCMhg/rUiKDkAbDIQBaH2g8=; b=vfD4Tcf67pf/MnCF+Aym47z+cNODQLgNDjEiOZUWu6/05cRiHkQVs0A6aR9mbux1Va yS8ykMZnoU2NVnFOzxNVY19sA7Oxc0Skty4M7dtJt7Ghc31RFFkL7NmB/os8y1/FgZS6 w6xjKoN+WATmZfP87Y3EWdZ3Onie2SBqli7go+zRpyKF2KW0qQ4lGXbtbBIidPhHk+PK R1zsdkBaTvuFFqPqtPw2hDqNXj6vAkJUnefqSSUzMeuG4FJhYecE3KWiLkbK+9Y/KHcb 75r6qrgVx7Jp8OLw2IWxJhIXVka20vo9cla7POK9dGsXC0LXfmElN+SV6+n4I9hX5kFm 4mtA== Original-Received: by 10.50.94.200 with SMTP id de8mr1518324igb.21.1333204256372; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 07:30:56 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.231.23.208 with HTTP; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 07:30:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <811uo9jj63.fsf@gmail.com> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:58383 Archived-At: --e89a8f234bed1d36d904bc8acebf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Jambunathan K wrot= e: > > Glenn > > You can ignore this mail, if you want. > > Rustom, > > Here is the context - > > > Sorry I dont get the context. > > On my emacs 23.3.1 I can activate devanagari-aiba input method. > > Is there something else you want me to check? > > Are you activating the input method like this - > > 1. C-x C-m l Devanagari > 2. C-\ > > Do you see a crash like this - > If I do it like you say I only see Can't activate input method `dev-aiba' No backtrace. If I do what I usually do ie C-x RET C-\ and then give devanagari-aiba (not dev-aiba) it seems to work for me My preferences later (I'll look more carefully at both) Rusi > Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Can't activate input method > `dev-aiba'") > signal(error ("Can't activate input method `dev-aiba'")) > error("Can't activate input method `%s'" "dev-aiba") > activate-input-method("dev-aiba") > toggle-input-method(nil 1) > call-interactively(toggle-input-method nil nil) > > > I dont know this input method (and google does not help) > > See [1]. They apparently has something to do with diacritic marks > (whatever that means). > > > but looking at describe-input-method and trying out a bit it seems > > very close (identical??) to itrans. > > See [2]. The table that compares two methods and is attached here for > future reference. There are 12 entries in that table where the aiba and > itrans input methods differ. > > I was wondering, as someone who is more familiar with Devanagari which > of these would you prefer as the input method. If you think that you > have no particular opinion, I think we can leave the defaults as such. > > Here is an entry for SHA. > > ,---- DEVANAGARI LETTER SHA with devanagari-itrans is mapped to "sha" > | position: 9395 of 15548 (60%), column: 31 > | character: =E0=A4=B6 (displayed as =E0=A4=B6) (codepoint 23= 58, #o4466, #x936) > | preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646)) > | code point in charset: 0x0936 > | syntax: w which means: word > | category: .:Base, L:Left-to-right (strong), i:Indian > | to input: type "sha" with devanagari-itrans > | buffer code: #xE0 #xA4 #xB6 > | file code: #xE0 #xA4 #xB6 (encoded by coding system > utf-8-dos) > | display: by this font (glyph code) > | > uniscribe:-outline-Mangal-normal-normal-normal-*-20-*-*-*-p-*-iso10646-1 > (#x9E) > | > | Character code properties: customize what to show > | name: DEVANAGARI LETTER SHA > | general-category: Lo (Letter, Other) > | decomposition: (2358) ('=E0=A4=B6') > | > | [back] > `---- > > ,---- DEVANAGARI LETTER SHA with devanagari-itrans is mapped to "^sa" > | position: 2855 of 5721 (50%), column: 22 > | character: =E0=A4=B6 (displayed as =E0=A4=B6) (codepoint 23= 58, #o4466, #x936) > | preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646)) > | code point in charset: 0x0936 > | syntax: w which means: word > | category: .:Base, L:Left-to-right (strong), i:Indian > | to input: type "^sa" with devanagari-aiba > | buffer code: #xE0 #xA4 #xB6 > | file code: #xE0 #xA4 #xB6 (encoded by coding system > utf-8-dos) > | display: by this font (glyph code) > | > uniscribe:-outline-Mangal-normal-normal-normal-*-20-*-*-*-p-*-iso10646-1 > (#x9E) > | > | Character code properties: customize what to show > | name: DEVANAGARI LETTER SHA > | general-category: Lo (Letter, Other) > | decomposition: (2358) ('=E0=A4=B6') > | > | [back] > `---- > > Footnotes: > > [1] http://texa.human.is.tohoku.ac.jp/aiba/codes/table/draft/r02/html/ > > Document has following particulars. > > ,---- > | Word Processing in Tibetan and Sanskrit > | Toru AIBA > | > | Graduate School of Information Sciences, Tohoku University > | March 2000 > | > | Handout for my presentation at "Fourth International Symposium on > | Multilingual Information Processing" at Tsukuba in March 26, 2000. > `---- > > [2] Image captioned "Table 3: Transliteration Schemes in Sanskrit > (Substitutional)", > > --e89a8f234bed1d36d904bc8acebf Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Jambuna= than K <kjam= bunathan@gmail.com> wrote:

Glenn

You can ignore this mail, if you want.

Rustom,

Here is the context -

> Sorry I dont get the context.
> On my emacs 23.3.1 I can activate devanagari-aiba input method.
> Is there something else you want me to check?

Are you activating the input method like this -

1. C-x C-m l Devanagari
2. C-\

Do you see a crash like this -

If I do it like you= say I only see
Can't activate input method `dev-aiba'

<= br>No backtrace.

If I do what I usually do ie C-x RET C-\
and the= n give devanagari-aiba (not dev-aiba) it seems to work for me

My preferences later (I'll look more carefully at both)

Rusi=



Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Can't activate input method = `dev-aiba'")
=C2=A0signal(error ("Can't activate input method `dev-aiba'&q= uot;))
=C2=A0error("Can't activate input method `%s'" "dev= -aiba")
=C2=A0activate-input-method("dev-aiba")
=C2=A0toggle-input-method(nil 1)
=C2=A0call-interactively(toggle-input-method nil nil)

> I dont know this input method (and google does not help)

See [1]. They apparently has something to do with diacritic marks
(whatever that means).

> but looking at describe-input-method and trying out a bit it seems
> very close (identical??) to itrans.

See [2]. =C2=A0The table that compares two methods and is attached he= re for
future reference. =C2=A0There are 12 entries in that table where the aiba a= nd
itrans input methods differ.

I was wondering, as someone who is more familiar with Devanagari which
of these would you prefer as the input method. =C2=A0If you think that you<= br> have no particular opinion, I think we can leave the defaults as such.

Here is an entry for SHA.

,---- DEVANAGARI LETTER SHA with devanagari-itrans is mapped to "sha&q= uot;
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0position: 9395 of 15548 (= 60%), column: 31
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 character: =E0=A4=B6 (displayed= as =E0=A4=B6) (codepoint 2358, #o4466, #x936)
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646))
| code point in charset: 0x0936
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0syntax: w =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0which means: word
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0category: .:Base, L:Left-= to-right (strong), i:Indian
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0to input: type "sha&= quot; with devanagari-itrans
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 buffer code: #xE0 #xA4 #xB6
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 file code: #xE0 #xA4 #xB6 (enco= ded by coding system utf-8-dos)
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 display: by this font (g= lyph code)
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 uniscribe:-outline-Mangal-normal-normal-normal-*-20-*-*-*-p= -*-iso10646-1 (#x9E)
|
| Character code properties: customize what to show
| =C2=A0 name: DEVANAGARI LETTER SHA
| =C2=A0 general-category: Lo (Letter, Other)
| =C2=A0 decomposition: (2358) ('=E0=A4=B6')
|
| [back]
`----

,---- DEVANAGARI LETTER SHA with devanagari-itrans is mapped to "^sa&q= uot;
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0position: 2855 of 5721 (5= 0%), column: 22
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 character: =E0=A4=B6 (displayed= as =E0=A4=B6) (codepoint 2358, #o4466, #x936)
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646))
| code point in charset: 0x0936
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0syntax: w =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0which means: word
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0category: .:Base, L:Left-= to-right (strong), i:Indian
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0to input: type "^sa&= quot; with devanagari-aiba
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 buffer code: #xE0 #xA4 #xB6
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 file code: #xE0 #xA4 #xB6 (enco= ded by coding system utf-8-dos)
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 display: by this font (g= lyph code)
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 uniscribe:-outline-Mangal-normal-normal-normal-*-20-*-*-*-p= -*-iso10646-1 (#x9E)
|
| Character code properties: customize what to show
| =C2=A0 name: DEVANAGARI LETTER SHA
| =C2=A0 general-category: Lo (Letter, Other)
| =C2=A0 decomposition: (2358) ('=E0=A4=B6')
|
| [back]
`----

Footnotes:

[1] http://texa.human.is.tohoku.ac.jp/aiba/codes/tabl= e/draft/r02/html/

Document has following particulars.

,----
| Word Processing in Tibetan and Sanskrit
| Toru AIBA
|
| Graduate School of Information Sciences, Tohoku University
| March 2000
|
| Handout for my presentation at "Fourth International Symposium on | Multilingual Information Processing" at Tsukuba in March 26, 2000. `----

[2] Image captioned "Table 3: Transliteration Schemes in Sanskrit
(Substitutional)",


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