> > I do not know what the command is that is scrolling the child frame. It > > does not appear in view-lossage. > And C-h k does not give any clue either? Ah, C-h k does give a clue, thank you! at that spot runs the command mouse-drag-region at that spot runs the command mouse-set-point The window selected in posn-set-point is the window in the child frame, which is the window that scrolls (and that I do not want to scroll). But, the thing doing the scrolling is 'mouse-drag-region', which calls 'mouse-drag-track', which calculates the bottom of the window incorrectly if it does not have a mode-line. The attached patch fixes this, which fixes my originally reported problem. Given that it impacts a use of child-frames and it's relatively minor I'd propose that it gets applied to emacs 26 (probably after 26.1 release?) if it's acceptable. Thanks,