From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Aaron Jensen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#60220: 29.0.60; macOS 13.1 crash shortly after starting Emacs Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2022 21:11:28 -0500 Message-ID: References: <24A595DF-81D8-47E7-90BC-FCDDB27315E8@gmail.com> <83ilhz2r14.fsf@gnu.org> <83r0wl0z6g.fsf@gnu.org> <204d542c-73e6-243a-f2d5-36b92cfa25ee@cs.ucla.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28825"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: gerd.moellmann@gmail.com, Eli Zaretskii , 60220@debbugs.gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 30 03:12:24 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pB4sh-0007Io-Hr for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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If > > Might, but it might make more sense not to be dynamically loading code > during an idle timer. Surely this could cause problems even in > non-native lisp. Anyway, I suggest consulting a macOS expert before > doing much experimenting; there's not enough evidence now for me to give > advice. I reported a bug and opened a discussion on the developer forum. We will see where that goes. I also added printfs on either side of native-elisp-load. When I got a crash, it was in a magit eln again and from what I can tell, every "start loading" had a matching "loaded" logged. I don't know that that definitely rules out the load interrupted theory or not. Furthermore, I've been able to crash it in a debugger. I don't know what to do there though, so I'm not sure how useful that is at this point. Aaron