From: Dani Moncayo <dmoncayo@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>, 24759@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#24759: 25.1.50; electric-quote-mode
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2016 12:36:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAH8Pv0jmiaN4xAhWdwNYqNdJgPT=B4nPadLOVS99wUfO4YUomg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83funorbp2.fsf@gnu.org>
>> > And if electric-quote-mode wants to be more user-friendly, it could
>> > ask, upon the first insertion of any electric quote character into a
>> > buffer, whether the user would like to her buffer-file-coding-system
>> > switched to UTF-8.
>>
>> I'd like such a feature, but I'd rather make it general (not specific
>> to electric-quote-mode). That is, whenever a buffer gets a character
>> (whether typed, yanked, electrically inserted, ...) which is not
>> representable in the current buffer-file-coding-system, Emacs could
>> offer the user to switch the coding system to UTF-8 (or another one
>> which can represent all the characters currently present in the
>> buffer), like happens when the buffer is about to be saved to a file.
>
> IMO, this would be too annoying and detrimental to performance in many
> cases. I think you underestimate how much 'insert' is used in Emacs,
> without the user knowing anything about that. In most such cases, the
> buffer into which the character is entered will never be saved to any
> file.
>
> My proposal was specifically for the case where keyboard input caused
> these characters be inserted after conversion by electric-quote-mode,
> which hopefully restricts the applicable use cases to those where the
> user is typing at the keyboard.
OK. In that case I withdraw my general approach.
> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2016 09:49:00 +0300
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> Cc: 24759@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> So I actually question the need for any test in electric--insertable-p.
> What bad things, besides the prompt at save-buffer time, will happen
> if we remove the test, and insert the characters unconditionally?
FWIW: I'd also prefer to remove that check from electric-quote-mode,
so that the quote conversion would always happen (if the minor mode is
enabled in the current buffer), regardless of
buffer-file-coding-system.
Thanks.
--
Dani Moncayo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-10-22 10:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-10-21 19:38 bug#24759: 25.1.50; electric-quote-mode Dani Moncayo
2016-10-21 19:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-21 20:26 ` Dani Moncayo
2016-10-21 21:01 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-21 21:04 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-22 6:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-22 7:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-22 8:16 ` Dani Moncayo
2016-10-22 9:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-22 10:36 ` Dani Moncayo [this message]
2016-10-22 18:47 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-22 19:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-22 19:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-23 4:10 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-23 7:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-23 8:24 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-23 8:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-22 19:20 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-10-23 3:55 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-23 7:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-23 8:15 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-23 8:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-23 9:15 ` Dani Moncayo
2016-10-23 9:28 ` Paul Eggert
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