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From: Dani Moncayo <dmoncayo@gmail.com>
To: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>
Cc: 9406@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#9406: 24.0.50; Use M-p/M-n to navigate through the kill ring
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 12:45:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAH8Pv0jERFhmNnjc=OcJ-uOSU4uOC=jC21CbfuJWpwfT7fkQBA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sjohrjfl.fsf@mail.jurta.org>

Hi Juri,

On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 11:51, Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org> wrote:
>> Using the minibuffer would be indeed a way of doing this, but on
>> second thought I think that it would be better to have "in-site"
>> replacement of the yanked text (like M-y does now), because:
>>
>> 1. It would be quicker: It saves you the extra <RET> once you have
>> selected the wanted entry.
>
> "In-situ" replacement is quicker indeed but has its own problems:
> to undo the last yanked text to the initial state you have to undo
> insertions and deletions of all intermediate elements of the kill ring.
>
> So what you propose is like setting `search-ring-update' to t in Isearch.
> It's quicker without requiring <RET>, but to revert to the initial search
> position you have to undo all search movements for intermediate elements of
> the search ring.

Correct.  That is the way M-y works now, so that this would not be a
new problem.  Besides, that problem is quite minor, IMO, because:
* The common case would be to yank the last or close-to-last entry
from the ring, so that no (or very few) extra "undo" movements would
be necessary.
* In the rare cases of yanking and old entry *and* then wanting to
revert it, users would always have the quick option of deleting the
region (which as you now is updated in every yank operation).

So, i think that the drawbacks are much smaller than the advantages.

>> 2. When the killed text is tall (has many lines), the minibuffer would
>> show only a small fragment of it.
>
> The minibuffer shows enough multi-line text to recognize the wanted entry.

Yes, I also think so.  So this point would make little difference, but
anyway large entries would be shown even better in the buffer, because
there would be normally more visual space.

>> Thus, for example if you wanted to yank the third entry from the kill
>> ring, all you would have to to is "C-y M-p M-p M-p" and you're done.
>> Very quick, very intuitive, very convenient!
>
> With many M-p, one extra <RET> is not a problem.

As I've said above, I think that the common case would imply one or
very few "M-p"'s.  Besides, typing 2 or 3 times the same key is almost
as quick as typing it only once.  Therefore, IMO the extra <RET> would
really make a difference.

-- 
Dani Moncayo





  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-31 10:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-30 11:39 bug#9406: 24.0.50; Use M-p/M-n to navigate through the kill ring Dani Moncayo
2011-08-30 12:08 ` Juri Linkov
2011-08-30 12:17   ` Dani Moncayo
2011-08-30 12:27     ` Juri Linkov
2011-08-30 18:13       ` Deniz Dogan
2011-08-30 18:48         ` Dani Moncayo
2011-08-31  6:22       ` Dani Moncayo
2011-08-31  9:51         ` Juri Linkov
2011-08-31 10:45           ` Dani Moncayo [this message]
2011-08-31 13:01         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-31 13:55           ` Deniz Dogan
2011-08-31 14:33             ` Thierry Volpiatto
2011-08-31 14:52               ` Deniz Dogan
2011-09-02  0:39               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-31 15:40             ` Dani Moncayo
2011-08-31 15:45               ` Deniz Dogan
2011-08-31 16:11               ` Drew Adams
2011-08-31 15:33           ` Dani Moncayo
2011-08-31 15:47           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2011-08-31 16:36             ` Juri Linkov
2011-08-31 21:18               ` Dani Moncayo
2011-09-01  8:42                 ` Juri Linkov
2011-09-01  9:13                   ` Dani Moncayo
2011-09-01  9:53                     ` Antoine Levitt
2011-09-01 10:28                       ` Dani Moncayo
2011-09-01 13:22                     ` Juri Linkov
2011-09-01 14:44                       ` Dani Moncayo
2011-09-01 19:59                         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2011-09-01 21:56                           ` Dani Moncayo
2011-09-02  1:24                             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2022-04-27 14:21   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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