From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dani Moncayo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#10113: 24.0.91; Isearch & `M-e' Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 21:59:21 +0100 Message-ID: References: <871uszwxoi.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87sjletwnb.fsf@mail.jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1322081984 28399 80.91.229.12 (23 Nov 2011 20:59:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 20:59:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 10113@debbugs.gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 23 21:59:40 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RTJuu-0002Mr-3p for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 21:59:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33942 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RTJut-0006k5-Ef for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 15:59:39 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:36064) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RTJuq-0006k0-9H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 15:59:37 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RTJup-0002N6-4H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 15:59:36 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:34774) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RTJup-0002N2-0M for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 15:59:35 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RTJwD-0007HY-S0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 16:01:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Dani Moncayo Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 21:01:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10113 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 10113-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10113.132208205027973 (code B ref 10113); Wed, 23 Nov 2011 21:01:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 10113) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Nov 2011 21:00:50 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RTJw2-0007H8-Kf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 16:00:50 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-yx0-f172.google.com ([209.85.213.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RTJw1-0007H2-4x for 10113@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 16:00:50 -0500 Original-Received: by yenm7 with SMTP id m7so1870076yen.3 for <10113@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 12:59:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2fwsh/b0CXgD5kA3XS758hNOfMwiUWpQuKr7FlC3BBQ=; b=sgetv6LZ8mhiyq8NMsyUEHkU8yi70tQNHMDsZG9qWRGSYt9vPHB1ajjDzkjS8prU/l VttUHZFcubVXL/45gTo9viRIAul0qflGK6jw8iG1oegfCn+DtUo3zJvs2Q+SSET/hD3z SnrFcLE//11SAdWu2xR9laabGQxvDEqN5NsGM= Original-Received: by 10.236.181.164 with SMTP id l24mr38352520yhm.22.1322081961515; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 12:59:21 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.236.161.201 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 12:59:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87sjletwnb.fsf@mail.jurta.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 16:01:01 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:54233 Archived-At: On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 21:20, Juri Linkov wrote: >> Because, removing the final "R" via minibuffer should be equivalent to >> do it directly by typing DEL (just after the "R"). > > Actually `M-e DEL RET' is not equivalent to `DEL'. > It is equivalent to `C-M-w' (`isearch-del-char'). Agreed. >> In this second case, my reasoning is analogous: Changing the final "R" >> with a "r" via minibuffer should be equivalent to doing that directly >> (typing "DEL r" just after the "R"). > > `M-e DEL r RET' is not equivalent to `DEL r'. > It is equivalent to `C-M-w r'. Agreed. >> IOW, the case-sensitivity of the Isearch, when it's determined >> _automatically_ (not by typing `M-c'), > > WRT automatic changing of case-sensitivity after entering > an upper-case letter, this is a traditional behavior that > you can disable by customizing `search-upper-case' to nil. Customizing that variable is not what I want. See below. >> should be revised after editing the search string in the minibuffer, >> to produce a result consistent with the principle I said before. > > This is unrelated to `isearch-edit-string'. =A0You'll get the same result > when you type `C-a C-s b u f f e R C-M-w r'. You're right, you get the same (undesirable) result that way too. I'll try to express myself better: by default (without touching `isearch-edit-string'), the "case fold search" behavior can be switched on/off in two ways: a. Manually: by typing `M-c'. b. Automatically (only applies if the previous criterion is "case insensitive"): based on whether the current search string contains any uppercase letter or not. What I say is that currently (as we are shown) the (b) criterion is not always re-evaluated, and it should. BTW, Stefan agrees on this, and I hope you too :-). --=20 Dani Moncayo