From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dani Moncayo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12811: 24.3.50; `scroll-up/down-aggressively' don't seem to work as expected Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 18:28:22 +0100 Message-ID: References: <83ip9i3c59.fsf@gnu.org> <831ug62z3c.fsf@gnu.org> <83r4o51h92.fsf@gnu.org> <83zk2ow1ry.fsf@gnu.org> <83txswvywi.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1352654930 24526 80.91.229.3 (11 Nov 2012 17:28:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 17:28:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 12811@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 11 18:29:00 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TXbLA-0000Oy-5R for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 18:29:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40388 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TXbL0-0002nm-Gm for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 12:28:50 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41921) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TXbKv-0002nh-OB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 12:28:48 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TXbKs-0006fV-Lf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 12:28:45 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:51408) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TXbKs-0006fR-Hn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 12:28:42 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TXbLB-0005Jr-Pd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 12:29:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Dani Moncayo Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 17:29:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12811 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 12811-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12811.135265492620425 (code B ref 12811); Sun, 11 Nov 2012 17:29:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12811) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Nov 2012 17:28:46 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33426 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TXbKv-0005JN-7W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 12:28:45 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-oa0-f44.google.com ([209.85.219.44]:41554) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TXbKs-0005JF-Gx for 12811@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 12:28:43 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-oa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id n5so5194843oag.3 for <12811@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 09:28:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=DSQU07VxFJbVrG1PhV1HHGDEnzMXre1h+CObFKIIFZM=; b=WPDwYv4AwQU6p5dzIaAmjGGdu4nLoBgonYFp9ppy+a92odC2n243nfYhBhXdFrHC6I 8o8MoHCgozTw8uJ45nQCnAOf29Iv/POFPBoRuWUiPEeOj+zbD0oGTO8hFIBH4JDFdU1r RwZrkkzFOW0CC24G2eTPjo7ZYx9Mtw2RDYG3jqaJ3mUjYD2o1HyqbuKIGZPef7Xga+bD ynIycIGbWnFUObhDewQvPvyxlEgHcXYEkEeJYDeani7h/PSFcowBdKZ0iVESgX0p93TM XCEAfL3WednlcjsKEzoHEGSkELBaUf2kzs3L1QA4GcwAxQF5hwRwDESDdRJ6dz6Sjxtt Regw== Original-Received: by 10.182.146.107 with SMTP id tb11mr13328138obb.30.1352654902410; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 09:28:22 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.60.131.168 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 09:28:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83txswvywi.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:66769 Archived-At: >> > Emacs doesn't count in lines, it counts in pixels. And since a line >> > has a finite size, where exactly those 70% end is not well determined >> > (is it the top of the line, the bottom of the line, somewhere in >> > between?). >> >> I don't see the point of using pixel as unit of measure here. The >> unit should be the line, because the problem to solve here can >> (should) be expressed in terms of lines; going down to the pixel level >> is unnecessary and confusing, IMO. > > You forget about variable fonts. One line can be very large, another > very small. Scrolling must still do something reasonable with them. Yes, I forgot that. In that case we have to go down to the pixel level, indeed. Thank you. -- Dani Moncayo