From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Dani Moncayo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#27932: 26.0.50; Feature request: prevent scroll commands from changing the buffer location of point Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 23:00:38 +0200 Message-ID: References: <83tw1oy54c.fsf@gnu.org> <83mv7ewm1i.fsf@gnu.org> <83lgmwty18.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1502053283 25714 195.159.176.226 (6 Aug 2017 21:01:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 21:01:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 27932@debbugs.gnu.org, "Richard M. 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Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't think that the meaning/interpretation of 'scroll-conservatively' should be changed at all, because AFAIK, that variable controls the auto-scroll triggered by a point movement, and such auto-scroll would be equally necessary with the proposed feature enabled (and should work equally). -- Dani Moncayo