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From: Dani Moncayo <dmoncayo@gmail.com>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: 10056@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#10056: 24.0.91; Mark deactivation
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 20:07:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAH8Pv0hc78QPL3XahPNXKZuMskxSj-3jJVmE_PQHm8KLvVntqQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0139B55A9A504DE180FC189491666C53@us.oracle.com>

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 6:41 PM, Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> wrote:
>> I've just noticed a new case where the mark is not deactivated, when
>> it clearly should (IMO): after `eval-region'.
>
> Why should it?
>
> Even when used interactively (and certainly when not!),

I'm concerned about _interactive_ usability.  Sorry if I didn't make
that clear before.

> a user can want to do
> something else with the active region after evaluating it.
>
> Yes, s?he can always hit `C-x C-x C-x C-x' to reactivate it (there is probably a
> shorter way to do it nowadays, but I still have that habit).  But the question
> is why?  What's the reason to deactivate the region after `eval-region'?
>
> To be clear, I have no particular objection that I can think of offhand.  But I
> don't see why the behavior should be changed.  "If it ain't broke don't fix it."
> IOW, please argue a bit in favor of the change for this specific command - some
> reasons, please.

Well, the reason is the same for all commands I've mentioned: In my
experience (or my usage pattern), after defining an active region and
invoking a command to operate on it, it's much more likely that the
next commands have nothing to do with that active region.  IOW, I
almost always set up an active region to do a single operation on it,
not several ones.  So keeping the region active is, at best, counter
intuitive and visually annoying to me.

> Wrt your footnote [2]: Why should we deactivate the region for _any_ command
> when it is called non-interactively?  That doesn't make sense to me (yet - but
> I'm willing to learn why).

That footnote is about `narrow-to-region', not about "any command".
But, well, I'm thinking that perhaps the mark deactivation I'm
requesting should be specific to interactive calls.  After all, what I
want to avoid is just the annoyance of having to type `C-g' to
deactivate the mark after realizing that Emacs didn't do it for me.

-- 
Dani Moncayo





  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-25 19:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-15 20:06 bug#10056: 24.0.91; `copy-to-register' does not deactivate the mark Dani Moncayo
2011-11-15 20:15 ` Dani Moncayo
2011-11-15 20:36   ` Dani Moncayo
2011-11-15 20:18 ` Dani Moncayo
2011-11-21  6:30 ` Chong Yidong
2012-06-05  7:44   ` Dani Moncayo
2012-07-28 19:01   ` Dani Moncayo
2012-07-29  4:45     ` Chong Yidong
2012-07-29  9:46       ` Dani Moncayo
2012-07-29  4:50     ` Chong Yidong
2012-07-29 10:01       ` Dani Moncayo
2012-08-01 21:17         ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-08-01 22:07           ` Dani Moncayo
2012-08-03 21:47             ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-09-08 20:21           ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-09 20:20             ` Dani Moncayo
2012-09-11 14:42               ` Bastien
2012-12-05  8:04 ` bug#10056: 24.0.91; Mark deactivation Dani Moncayo
2012-12-08 10:09   ` Dani Moncayo
2012-12-08 23:03     ` Juri Linkov
2012-12-09  0:00       ` Drew Adams
2012-12-09  0:29         ` Juri Linkov
2012-12-09  3:21           ` Drew Adams
2012-12-09  9:07             ` Dani Moncayo
2013-01-25 12:34               ` Dani Moncayo
2013-01-25 17:41                 ` Drew Adams
2013-01-25 19:07                   ` Dani Moncayo [this message]
2013-01-25 19:34                     ` Drew Adams
2013-01-25 19:01                 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-04-26 13:50 ` bug#10056: 24.0.91; `copy-to-register' does not deactivate the mark Lars Ingebrigtsen

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