From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dani Moncayo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9406: 24.0.50; Use M-p/M-n to navigate through the kill ring Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 23:18:23 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87zkirnlug.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87ippfnl3g.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <4E5E5799.1040107@harpegolden.net> <871uw1lerd.fsf@mail.jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1314825535 2190 80.91.229.12 (31 Aug 2011 21:18:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 21:18:55 +0000 (UTC) To: 9406@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 31 23:18:52 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QysBP-0000RA-Eh for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 23:18:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55585 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QysBO-00079S-Iq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 17:18:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:51486) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QysBM-00079A-9C for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 17:18:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QysBL-0001Ak-Br for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 17:18:48 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:40801) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QysBL-0001Af-91 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 17:18:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QysET-0008RK-QY; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 17:22:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Dani Moncayo Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 21:22:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9406 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 9406-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9406.131482570232416 (code B ref 9406); Wed, 31 Aug 2011 21:22:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9406) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Aug 2011 21:21:42 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QysE9-0008Qn-Mq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 17:21:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-gy0-f172.google.com ([209.85.160.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QysE7-0008Qe-Le for 9406@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 17:21:40 -0400 Original-Received: by gyf3 with SMTP id 3so849332gyf.3 for <9406@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:18:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=w3sCMTg/+nNmcoo2RtZXYI97Q5SkoaTtJTILl9gnSy8=; b=yIa9A3OHyvtS/kWW2j+2Wz4aMfFzLfZt8caZq9HOpba5TFwgq8mwad28fFFoNGaAzI sOfM6yXy28dPIdhsc7jZ+/eZfVItJmQbsQOf10XDHgk5ANKPFjSaMA5eP5mEAFeUmKV6 SJDPCuCugRTrYdyp9EyGMVv4cqqG4jQG8jAkQ= Original-Received: by 10.236.116.73 with SMTP id f49mr4973060yhh.87.1314825504048; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:18:24 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.236.43.131 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:18:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <871uw1lerd.fsf@mail.jurta.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 17:22:01 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:50501 Archived-At: Well, thus far the main objections to my initial proposal are: 1. Some prefer to select the kill-ring entry from the minibuffer, which would allow "clean browsing" (i.e. without altering the undo history), searching and completion. I obviously agree that this would be a nice feature. 2. Some don't want M-p/M-n to be temporally rebound after C-y. ------------ Solution for #1: Since the current M-y functionality would go to M-p, M-y would be free and we could use it for jumping to the minibuffer. Something similar has been proposed, but I don't want to overload M-y with two different tasks, but instead moving the current one to M-p (it makes a lot more sense there) and giving it the new one (it feels quite good too: C-y for "yanking in situ" and M-y for "yanking via minibuffer"). Solution for #2: As Stefan pointed out, that temporal rebinding of M-p/M-n could be optional. I think/hope that, with these additions, everyone shall be happy, and I guess that we all agree in that this would mean a great boost in Emacs kill-ring functionality. WDYT? -- Dani Moncayo