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From: Duncan Greatwood <dgreatwood@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 70973@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#70973: 29.1; "Unlocking file: Invalid argument" Warning saving via a softlink with stale file lock
Date: Thu, 16 May 2024 12:27:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGg=3NUykucHwiB159DM9pfQxyhz5Vbs1PxroZY7pLnQKsxXCw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <867cftiprt.fsf@gnu.org>

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>> Emacs does not create lock files that are symlinks AFAIK.
>That is not true.  lock files are normally dangling symlinks,
>i.e. their target does not exist.

Ah, I see.

I just tried editing a different file, client.cc, causing a lockfile to be
created. Sure enough, just as you say, that lockfile is a dangling symlink:
ls -al .#client.cc
lrwxr-xr-x@ 1 username  staff  40 May 16 11:39 .#client.cc ->
username@DMG-MB-Air-15-2024.local.3071

Then, returning to editing ~/.emacs (which, being a symlink, is actually
editing ~/Dropbox/Documents/Projects/emacs/dotemacs).
Again, this creates a dangling symlink as you would expect:
ls -l .#dotemacs
lrwxr-xr-x@ 1 username  staff  40 May 16 11:43 .#dotemacs ->
username@DMG-MB-Air-15-2024.local.3071

At this point, I tried doing a hard reboot (power cycle) to simulate the
kernel crash I mentioned before. But (not surprisingly) after the reboot
the lock file still looks as you would expect.
ls -l .#dotemacs
lrwxr-xr-x@ 1 username  staff  40 May 16 11:43 .#dotemacs ->
username@DMG-MB-Air-15-2024.local.3071

Noting that, in the bad case, the lock file was not only *not* a dangling
symlink as it should be, but was also of zero size, I would speculate that
the kernel crash happened right as emacs was part way through writing the
lockfile to disk.

Taking a quick look at the emacs source, the C function create_lock_file
calls emacs_symlink which in turn calls the OS function symlink.

The OS function symlink is commonly assumed to be atomic I believe (e.g.
see https://rcrowley.org/2010/01/06/things-unix-can-do-atomically.html).
However in this case I would suspect that *the kernel crash terminated the
symlink write before it could fully complete*.

To fix, perhaps emacs needs to check purported lock files and handle the
case where they are not symlinks and/or are of zero size, avoiding the need
to remove the partially-written lock file manually.




On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 11:18 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:

> > From: Duncan Greatwood <dgreatwood@gmail.com>
> > Date: Thu, 16 May 2024 09:20:46 -0700
> > Cc: 70973@debbugs.gnu.org
> >
> > AFAIK, there is nothing about the symlink that is macOS or DropBox
> specific.
> >
> > Again, ~/.emacs is a symlink to the file in the subfolder of ~/Dropbox.
> >
> > The lock file is not a symlink.
> >
> > Emacs does not create lock files that are symlinks AFAIK.
>
> That is not true.  lock files are normally dangling symlinks,
> i.e. their target does not exist.  On a few systems where lock files
> are not symlinks (I knew about only one: MS-Windows), lock files are
> regular files, but then they are not empty.  And your reports indicate
> that it is a regular and empty file:
>
> > As follows:
> > $ ls -l ~/Dropbox/Documents/Projects/emacs/.#dotemacs
> > -rw-r--r--@ 1 username  staff  0 May 16 07:13
> /Users/username/Dropbox/Documents/Projects/emacs/.#dotemacs
>
> This is unusual, because it means the information that a lock file
> should record: the user and the process ID that locked the file -- is
> not recorded anywhere.  It is usually recorded either in the name of
> the symlink's target or (if the lock file is a regular file) in the
> file's contents.
>
> So something here is not "normal".  If indeed on macOS lock files are
> not symlinks, they should be regular files which are not empty.  If
> you could step with a debugger through the code of the C function
> create_lock_file and see what happens there when Emacs locks a file
> you edit, we could make some progress in investigating this bug.
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-16 19:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-16  0:53 bug#70973: 29.1; "Unlocking file: Invalid argument" Warning saving via a softlink with stale file lock Duncan Greatwood
2024-05-16  8:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-16 14:17   ` Duncan Greatwood
2024-05-16 15:46     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-16 15:55       ` Duncan Greatwood
2024-05-16 16:09         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-16 16:20           ` Duncan Greatwood
2024-05-16 18:18             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-16 19:27               ` Duncan Greatwood [this message]
2024-05-16 19:51                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-16 21:36                   ` Duncan Greatwood
2024-06-01 14:04                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-15 15:59                   ` bug#72641: 31.0.50; "Unlocking file: Invalid argument" when deleting lock file on network file system Michal Nazarewicz
     [not found]                   ` <2+lcnmedng9le3pwfn0gc79m@mina86.com>
     [not found]                     ` <86a5hd7o4t.fsf@gnu.org>
2024-08-15 17:44                       ` Michal Nazarewicz
2024-08-15 21:43                         ` Paul Eggert
2024-08-16  0:59                           ` Michal Nazarewicz
2024-08-16  3:20                             ` Paul Eggert
2024-08-17 20:03                               ` Michal Nazarewicz
2024-08-17 22:38                                 ` Paul Eggert
2024-08-17 22:55                                   ` Mike Kupfer
2024-08-17 23:08                                     ` Mike Kupfer
2024-08-18 21:15                                   ` Michal Nazarewicz
2024-08-18 21:25                                     ` Paul Eggert

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