From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Philippe Vaucher Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23529: Request for fixing randomize_va_space build issues Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 20:24:19 +0200 Message-ID: References: <573C2601.3030308@cs.ucla.edu> <54b89449-083a-a906-986a-f284dbbf482a@cs.ucla.edu> <02c57124-ef39-bc30-89ba-998986d070fc@cs.ucla.edu> <834m5tapuu.fsf@gnu.org> <8337lcc3jf.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1473186322 21148 195.159.176.226 (6 Sep 2016 18:25:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 18:25:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: p.stephani2@gmail.com, Paul Eggert , 23529@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 06 20:25:17 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bhL3Z-0004gA-Mh for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=dlqAEj6RLoNVqsyLEDxjMTBtT01tnaOvgHQxEBlEtVk=; b=lZFzLIUVtCccsfkh/eOR82/aIiFCHcTFkNIt5Z8ebNE7jSc8b04vogmBPGp0RquPVx 20sKA9kFA/VFpD4aCKaPO3oaVvZUhS3ScVGt0TFbKte2xZ6T75ay75kx6MQMpzE5TwQD 7RADgJdODKllpG3HzE+vEtRCo6IWu8AeMzXEbYMDW1RoatDUKFLEKiSb4/zMUslENexg XKwQbAIt9rUknKVJdqeRyTE0n7IrZmQrkRUsV2crvalHRgoDUiM1a6VtkNTlP3DIqU6r 1TNvlttu3XYPVE5112JsJsV0vFV2pGaTvJV216YOrsqFVwti2xjNDbkdwLjEdn638ZN1 sjZQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwPye/ufet5D2UQhegIsX00Bf7ftIlZJKy02sqNLIBv0C8u3syjuKhaF+csJPl2H6ZGf7xKcydlvJ3q/9A== X-Received: by 10.159.36.4 with SMTP id 4mr25890605uaq.71.1473186292747; Tue, 06 Sep 2016 11:24:52 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.103.44.18 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Sep 2016 11:24:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8337lcc3jf.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:123037 Archived-At: >> I doubt many end-users are aware of this feature, let alone use it. > > Rarely used is not the same as useless and unneeded. Whenever you > remove a feature, expect someone to come up with complaints about > regressions. You got me curious, can you explain a bit why it is useful? I always thought the reason was about speed, something historical that was needed "back then". AFAIK, nowadays most people that care about speed use autoloads or use-package and get under 2-3s of load-time. Don't get me wrong I understand that dumping emacs is much faster (< 1s load time), but the cost of having to re-dump each time you add a package makes it not very practical. Maybe one of the advantage is when you want to carry your customized emacs as one file on some USB key?