> The issue is more general than just a single character with a > modifier, because key sequences such as "C-x z" will still not > work: the 'z' will become the corresponding non-ASCII character > when a non-US keyboard layout is used. Therefore, the only general > solution is for Emacs to be aware of the keyboard layout in use, > and map the characters internally to their ASCII equivalents using > that layout. Probably yes, I don't know how other applications do it internally. As I mentioned, LibreOffice and IDEA (both are probably Java) do it somehow, so there is a way. Maybe I'll try to dig through it later, since I'm very familiar with Java. By the way, what I forgot to mention, is that Emacs input modes perform exactly like I want (i.e. bind to physical keys, so that C-. in Russian works as C-/ in English; also e.g. C-ч й is translated to C-x q, so even non-modified characters inside bindings work), but they have the advantage of knowing the layout, of course. And, as I mentioned, there are two problems with them: 1) I have to use C-\ to switch and 2) configuration of `xkb' is bypassed. Paul On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 at 10:49, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Juri Linkov > > Cc: pogonyshev@gmail.com, 43830@debbugs.gnu.org > > Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2020 22:01:47 +0300 > > > > >> We already discussed this 10 years ago, and the conclusion was that > > >> it would require too fundamental changes in how Emacs processes > keystrokes. > > > > > > Can you point me to that discussion? > > > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2005-11/msg01237.html > > Thanks. > > My take out of that discussion: > > . There's a patch in > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2005-11/msg01384.html > which seems to allow what Paul wanted with single characters with > modifiers, such as C-z or M-s. That patch has a disadvantage that > it disables AltGr, but if we install that patch as an optional > feature, perhaps the disadvantage is not so bad? > > . The issue is more general than just a single character with a > modifier, because key sequences such as "C-x z" will still not > work: the 'z' will become the corresponding non-ASCII character > when a non-US keyboard layout is used. Therefore, the only general > solution is for Emacs to be aware of the keyboard layout in use, > and map the characters internally to their ASCII equivalents using > that layout. > > (The discussions also included LEIM features, but I think that is a > separate issue.) >